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Jul 22, 2013 18:39:15   #
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Jul 22, 2013 18:22:57   #
July 22, 2013

http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-emerged-hiding-truck-crash-rescue/story?id=19735432

George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue a family who was trapped in an overturned vehicle, police said today.

Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of Dana and Mark Gerstle and their two children, who were trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla. at approximately 5:45 p.m. Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.

By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.

Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said.

It's the first known sighting of Zimmerman since he left the courtroom following his controversial acquittal last week on murder charges for the death of Martin. Zimmerman, 29, shot and killed Martin, 17, in Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26, 2012. The jury determined that Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense.
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Jul 22, 2013 16:48:57   #
Once a great defender of the common working man unions have evolved into a Ponzi scheme. The blame lies squarely at the feet of the politicians who refused to stand up to public sector unions. The fact is the union workforce has been grossly overpaid relative to their counterparts in the private sector with cushy pensions paid for with our tax dollars resulting in new escalating debt...
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Jul 22, 2013 16:37:06   #
dpullum wrote:
NOSLEEP! I realize that there are problems and it is the doctrine for "contriceptives" to never say more that a "one liner" like in the zing at a comedy club... but could you please expand on your comments??

1. What is "amoral indoctrination as a living truth"
2. I like the melody of "Devolution and degeneration of action" what does it mean??

The reason OL'Sarg and I do not give our correct location or any location is that "Conservatives" will kill if provoked and have many times...or will provoke crazy persons by telling them to invoke their 2nd amendment to straighten out thinking. Indeed the American Taliban... unfortunately, there is about 50% of the people who think, no don't think, follow the distortions of hate radio and hate mongering zealots.
NOSLEEP! I realize that there are problems and it ... (show quote)


It is actually very simple. I don't post a comment to argue back and forth. It is a vocal contribution to the thread. The statement I made is simple to comprehend. Any words that form part of my comment that you find unfamiliar or questionable are easy to confirm and research with a few strokes on the keyboard...
You need not worry about conservatives seeking you out. It is progressives that are proving time and time again to be prone to violence as well as active hate mongering zealots...
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Jul 22, 2013 12:51:23   #
ole sarg wrote:
I wonder why the right wing lives in the myth that liberals do not believe in the American Dream. After, all liberals created the American Dream. While conservatives sought to enslave and still do the average American.

Thank not, just look at the transfer of wealth during the Bush Administration! That was the result of conservative policies. It is still going on because of the Conservative house.

Unfortunately the picture above is not housing the bankers of wall street but rather the poor of main street!

When will conservative learn what is in their best interest.
I wonder why the right wing lives in the myth that... (show quote)


When a segment of society adopts amoral indoctrination as a living truth. Devolution and degeneration of action and thought becomes much more than a symptom.
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Jul 19, 2013 12:48:05   #
ole sarg wrote:
Regardless of which party was or is in power. AS Detroit lost population, industrial base and its tax base it could not sustain its infrastructure nor services.


Detroit has run out of other peoples money. Detroit unions and corruption turned the City into a ghetto.
Detroit in its heyday was the great socialist experiment of the Eastern U.S. It worked out well for them...
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Jul 18, 2013 20:56:43   #
Decades of Liberal Democratic rule and economic policies have brought this once great city to its knees.
47 percent of the owners of Detroit’s 305,000 properties didn’t pay their property taxes in 2012.

Cut &paste:
"Once the fourth largest city in the nation, and home to its largest industry, Detroit’s population has been cut in half, from 1.5 million in 1970, to less than 700,000 in 2012. Median household income is $27,862 compared to the state median of $48,669. The poverty level is 36.2 percent compared to a statewide level of 15.7. The murder rate is 11 times that of New York City, and the unemployment rate is above 18 percent, more than double the national average. Detroit Public Schools (DPS) have been under emergency management since 2008. In late February, the state review board revealed that the city faces a short-term cash $327 million budget deficit and an estimated $14 billion in long-term debt, primarily driven by unfunded pension and retirement health care obligations
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Jul 18, 2013 20:37:39   #
Screamin Scott wrote:
Is it me, or am I missing something here? It seems that all of those that disagree with the verdict seem to not either know what the facts are in the case, or simply refuse to acknowledge them. Some are even making up untrue assertions and giving their opinions as though they were a fact......


It's not you. It is the result of a brain wired differently.
Emotion is controlled by the frontal lobe of the brain. Reasoning is located in the frontal lobe as well but many people struggle with it. Reasoning is often overcome by emotion...
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Jul 18, 2013 17:48:23   #
eye2eye wrote:
It could also be that people are leaving because the homicide rate per capita is the highest in the nation. Even higher than Chicago if you can believe that.



What the Hell is wrong with Detroit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu2TaYPYVy4
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Jul 18, 2013 16:59:53   #
Protection.

Union destruction...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/07/18/detroit-bankruptcy.html

Detroit on Thursday became the largest city in U.S. history to file for bankruptcy, as the state-appointed emergency manager filed for Chapter 9 protection.

Kevin Orr, a bankruptcy expert, was hired by the state in March to lead Detroit out of a fiscal free-fall and made the filing Thursday in federal bankruptcy court.

A number of factors — most notably steep population and tax base falls — have been blamed on Detroit's tumble toward insolvency.

Losing residents

Detroit lost a quarter-million residents between 2000 and 2010. A population that in the 1950s reached 1.8 million is struggling to stay above 700,000. Much of the middle-class and scores of businesses also have fled Detroit, taking their tax dollars with them.

Orr was unable to convince a host of creditors, the city's union and pension boards to take pennies on the dollar to help facilitate the city's massive financial restructuring.

He laid out his plans in June meetings with debt holders, in which his team warned there was a 50-50 chance of a bankruptcy filing.

Some creditors were asked to take about 10 cents on the dollar of what the city owed them. Underfunded pension claims would have received less than the 10 cents on the dollar under that plan.

A team of financial experts put together by Orr said that proposal was Detroit's one shot to permanently fix its fiscal problems.

If the bankruptcy filing is approved, city assets could be liquidated to satisfy demands for payment.

Detroit's budget deficit is believed to be more than $380 million. Orr has said long-term debt was more than $14 billion and could be between $17 billion and $20 billion.
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Jul 18, 2013 13:57:28   #
Photo Girl wrote:
jkaye65:

1. He had no business stalking Martin. Your reply: "Zimmerman was on neighborhood watch. Watching unknown people is what they do." After Zimmerman called police, he should have backed off; he had no business following Martin. He was told not to follow Martin. Upon his own volition, he decided to follow Martin. Martin was being stalked. What would you do if you were being stalked? You sound like you are a member of the NRA. Would you have pulled your gun on Zimmerman if you had one??

2. Martin was defending himself against a stalker. Your reply: "In what state is it legal to punch somebody in the face and slam their head on concrete simply because you didn't like them watching/following/stalking you? Physically attacking somebody is a crime...everywhere." Are you serious? What you are saying is that Martin could not use any defense he had, but Martin could. How NRA brainwashed are you?

3. Zimmerman was a policeman wannabe. Your reply: "My son grew up wanting to be a policeman...guess he should go to jail"? If he did what Zimmerman did, then he should be held accountable. A policeman would not have done what Zimmerman did.

4. Zimmerman was looking for trouble and used self defense as an excuse for using his gun. He created a situation for an excuse to use his gun. Your reply: "You are seriously sick to think that he created this situation for an excuse to use his gun". If I am seriously sick to think this, then all the peace loving people in this world are seriously sick. It is you who have been brain washed by the NRA that think having a gun is the end-all solution to everything. Zimmerman put himself at risk, knowing that he had the upper hand, HE HAD HIS GUN!! He had nothing to fear by disregarding the police dept. orders; HE HAD HIS GUN!!! His gun permit should be withdrawn because he did not show good judgement in his pursuit of Martin.

Zimmerman acted improperly and you know it. Blockwatch is not a private body guard entail. It is 'WATCHING', you know, "Watch what is on your block"???

Now, I ask you, 'What would you do if someone was stalking you?'
jkaye65: br br 1. He had no business stalking Mar... (show quote)


Just so you have clear understanding. A Neighborhood watch is not "stalking". There is no requirement to hide.
Trayvon Martin escalated the observance to a confrontation. It went from neighborhood watch to self defense for George Zimmerman. The prosecution had no case...
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Jul 16, 2013 10:45:45   #
amyinsparta wrote:
One group dies rich and the other group dies poor. But they both die.


Interesting statement. I have never, ever seen an armored car following a funeral procession... They both left this world possessionless.
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Jul 16, 2013 01:14:15   #
Pepper wrote:
I've been watching this thread with interest and nothing. Where's the rage here? Why Trayvon and not this little guy? I don't understand.



Murder... The poor little guy has only been out of the womb for 13 months. Not long enough, or important enough to be a social priority to an enlightened pro-choice progressive society...
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Jul 14, 2013 19:22:22   #
MyPharo wrote:
When YOU pick a FIGHT / Assault with me .. and They I woop your ass .. THAT does not give you the right to pull a gun to WIN .. That is not how things are or should be .. You can not institute the crime then cry you were the Victim.

And Last time I heard, Observation means to Look and Observe .. He [ zim] was told to stay in his car by the 911 people and wait for police .. He did not .There was no imminent danger to any one that required him to take any action as the police were already called [ about a young black man walking ] .. He in my opinion then confronted the young man and that began the crime .. that led to a catastrophic end . Fact is Facts .
When YOU pick a FIGHT / Assault with me .. and Th... (show quote)


You are exploiting your own facts. Not the facts found in the trial. Zimmerman never initiated "picked a fight". He was part of a Neighborhood Watch program. He is free to watch,(he does not need to hide) the comings and goings
in the gated community.
Some believe dreams are more powerful than facts. Don't believe everything you think...
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Jul 14, 2013 12:43:44   #
magicray wrote:
I agree. Not perfect but as good as you can expect with our "how much justice can you afford" criminal justice system. The biased media didn't help Zimmerman's case either.

As a side thought, I always wondered why if a person is half black and half white they are considered black, but if you are half Hispanic and half white you are considered white. Any comments?


The moral arc of the universe bends at the elbow of justice.
Martin Luther King Jr.
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