Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Posts for: tenny52
Page: <<prev 1 ... 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 next>>
Feb 10, 2018 17:36:06   #
amfoto1 wrote:
Phase One is primarily a maker of digital backs for many different medium format cameras, as well as offering some software (Capture One).

Their digital backs have ranged in size from 16MP to 80MP. Earlier ones used CCD sensors, but they were one of the first medium format back makers to convert to better CMOS.

The 645 DF were a 2009 model jointly produced with Mamiya (the same camera sells under that brand, too). I am not certain which of the backs it's able to use. It was superseded by the DF+, not sure exactly when or the differences between them, but that model has since been superseded by the current XF models using "IQ" backs with up to 100MP sensors (approx. 2.5X larger than "full frame" DSLR sensors). Again, I'm not sure of the differences. But the collaboration with Mamiya means that you can likely use a lot of their vintage lenses. Some of the modern lenses are being made in collaboration with Shneider-Kreuznach and feature leaf shutters (one advantage of which is very high flash sync speeds are possible).

I'd wager that 645 DF at KEH for $792 is the body only... no back.

Leaf is another medium format digital back manufacturer that's made backs for the Mamiya cameras. I think Phase One and Leaf have now merged.. and products are selling under both name brands.

I couldn't find a Phase One 645 DF for sale with or without a back....

But a brand new Mamiya Leaf Credo 80MP Digital Back (CCD!) in kit with 645DF Medium Format DSLR and 80mm f/2.8 LS D Lens is selling for $28,495!

Or, brand new Mamiya 645 DF+ body without back but with 80mm lens is selling for $8000. A 50MP Leaf Credo back for it costs $19,995. Aside from the included 80mm, there are eight other lenses available for it (one zoom, seven primes) ranging in price from $2990 to $5490.

In their used dept. B&H has a Mamiya Leaf Credo 40MP Digital Back (only) in Mamiya 645DF mount for $9425. That's for the back alone!

Possibly the "best deal" in MF digital right now is probably the Fuji GFX 50S... a 50MP CMOS mirrorless model with "modern" range of ISOs and 3 frames per second shooting speeds, for $6500 without lens. The back isn't interchangeable and there's fairly few lenses for it yet (one zoom and four primes costing $1500 to $2600 approx.), but I think it can utilize some earlier lenses via adapters (probably manual focus only).

The Pentax 645Z is similar price, specification and design: 51MP, 3 frames per second, non-interchangeable back... except it's NOT mirrorless, uses an optical viewfinder... on sale at both B&H and Adorama for under $5500 right now ($1500 discount). Fifteen Pentax "FA" lenses are available for it (six zooms, nine primes) ranging in price from about $700 (75mm) to nearly $5000 (300mm f/4).

The next least expensive MF digital at B&H is the Hasselblad X1D 50C (also 50MP CMOS, mirrorless, non-interchangeable back) on sale right now for $11,395 with wide angle 45mm f/3.5 lens. Three other XCD lenses for it sell for between $3200 and $4500 apiece. I don't know if other lenses are adaptable to it.

Notice that the least expensive models are all fixed-back. The modular MF such as the 645 DF, in more modern specification offering much higher ISO capability, better image quality, improved AF and frame rates, are A LOT more expensive.

In other words, I think you're dreamin', if you hope to put together a MF digital capable of those incredible images for $1500! You might find some older, low resolution CCD back for little money and fit it to one of the earlier cameras and use them with a vintage, manual focus lens that doesn't cost a fortune. But you'd probably see better overall performance and image quality with a modern full frame DSLR that costs about the same... such as a Canon 6D (older 20MP model) w/24-105mm STM lens is selling for $1700.
Phase One is primarily a maker of digital backs fo... (show quote)

I use a Nikon D610 with a walk-around 24-85mm lens for about $1300
Yes, I was dreaming to owe a Phase One for $1500 with lens, which will definitely promote me at least one level higher of my photo skill.
Now I know they are untouchables. Bit I still have a dream that one day our pictures will be judged by our artistic talents and limited not by the quality of our gears.
Go to
Feb 10, 2018 06:14:21   #
letmedance wrote:
I had looked at Phase One a few years back and remembered that a digital back was required.
Thanks.

Well, I learned something new. What is digital back of a camera? Is it like a cpu/sensor which can be used for different model of cameras.
Go to
Feb 9, 2018 23:47:21   #
SharpShooter wrote:
Phase one is one of the preferred high end cameras of any MF pro. Joey L shoots with one. He’s one of my heroes!!
What you’re looking at must be an empty film body with no back. A phase one digital back is extremely expensive.
I would buy one in a heartbeat if I had the money!!!
SS

Phase one can easily cost more than a new Camry.
It doesn't seems to be a film camera selling for $792
https://www.keh.com/shop/phase-one-645-df-medium-format-camera-body-676360.html?m=Grouped&prod_id=1132662&aid=1132662&rmatt=tsid:|cid:843697358|agid:42901506677|tid:pla-300416081410|crid:198141512877|nw:g|rnd:973751258424296454|dvc:c|adp:1o1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlrrO67Wa2QIVTp7ACh35WAfCEAQYASABEgKUrfD_BwE
Go to
Feb 9, 2018 23:15:08   #
I came across some super detailed photo on-line and they were per Phase One IQ180 which was professional grade and very expensive.
But on KEH, Phase One 645 DF Medium Format Camera Body sells for $792 and can use Mamiya 645AF series lenses which are very reasonable priced.
Phase One is a Danish company and now owns Mamiya according to on-line report.
So with $1500, one can already buy a Phase One camera with about 3-4 lenses for travelling and party.
The question is: Does anyone have experience with such gears and how are they compared to similar priced N & C brands?
Go to
Feb 3, 2018 14:15:15   #
toxdoc42 wrote:
Look at neewer, $34 at Amazon, almost identical to all the others, no manual is really needed, it is pretty intuitive and at that price you can't go wrong


I have 2 Neewer TT660II, plus a set of Altura (master and slave) controls for under $100.
One charge(4AA rechargeables) probably provides flashes over 150 times(depending of intensity set).
I preferred them over Yongnuo of which the battery chamber doors were flimsy and busted on both; hope they have changed their design.
Go to
Jan 19, 2018 15:27:57   #
Weddingguy wrote:
If you are not on the wrong forum talking about stick shifts etc., and you are in fact referring to photography and lenses in some way??? . . . prime lenses are not necessarily manual lenses . . . they are still auto focus so not a good comparison to stick shift . . . except . . . prime lenses are like a manual transmission with only one gear. How much fun would the racing car be if it only had a 1st gear and it couldn't shift into 2nd . . or 3rd . . or 4th . . or overdrive??
If you are not on the wrong forum talking about st... (show quote)


Well you can relate changing lens as shifting gear; I can change a lens in 5 secs.
Timing can be improved with practice just like withdrawing your pistol.
And auto-focus is like using the clutch or kick in the turbo, or cruise-control.
It is a matter of preference depends of convenience, precision, habits, power, superiority, and freedom of choice.
Go to
Jan 19, 2018 15:11:43   #
Stephan G wrote:
You too?







just like fishing, it is not about how big, but about the moment.
that's why I have never caught any big fish yet
The worst day photographing is better than the best day working.
Go to
Jan 19, 2018 14:30:42   #
Just ask the old farts why they are still driving stick shift.
Those who don't miss the fun.
Race cars are all sticks.
Go to
Jan 17, 2018 14:51:56   #
It only takes you a couple of extra minutes to use your smart phone and shoot with panoramic mode; you may see surprising results.
So practice your smart phone settings, you don't have to take every panoramic shot to the full length.
Go to
Jan 17, 2018 14:32:03   #
In my penny opinion, pictures are good because they can represent something, one sentence or a whole story.
Pictures are repetitive because everybody can take it.
Pictures are unique because they are taken while most others would miss it due to difficult view angle, happen too fast, not good enough gears.
So usually pictures with award would mostly have motions/actions included, then they represent at least one sentence or more.
Birds would be good if they are in actions of hunting, nursing, fighting, courting, mating etc and not just stamp shots.
Similarity would apply to street people, wild animals, fish, but it would be more difficulty to apply to landscape without any lives included.
So pictures are good for showing if I can say a few words about them.
Go to
Dec 29, 2017 06:57:44   #
tenny52 wrote:
That's my walk around all time lens with fairly good results, which I bought that at Ebay for half that price.

Sorry wrong price quote, mine is not a VR lens.
Go to
Dec 29, 2017 06:56:21   #
Dan R wrote:
If you don't need fast glass, it may be worth checking out B&H used. There is a Nikon FX AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR Lens for $350.

That's my walk around all time lens with fairly good results, which I bought that at Ebay for half that price.
Go to
Dec 25, 2017 20:11:00   #
Thank you Ron, I did as told and now it reads correctly.
per Martin, I have never heard D610 can focus a manual lens. If it can, then mine would become an AF lens, wouldn't it?
Please show me how you did it.
It shows the light meters, in-focus indicator, A & S indicator.
I will find time to do the fine lens tuning.
Go to
Dec 25, 2017 17:43:10   #
Sorry to mention my 300mm is all manual.
To do the lens correction, should I put a measuring ruler 50ft away same level with the lens and tilted at 30degree horizontally?
Go to
Dec 25, 2017 17:12:53   #
Thanks, I agree I just look at the picture of a 300mm f2.8 model which has a huge front lens of 122mm (filter size).
Mine looks and weighs exactly like a 300mm f4.5 model.
Now I know mine is not a real f2.8; I was over joyed momentarily.
I noticed that from the information of the picture taken, it shows that it is taken from a 24mm lens.
In fact, I have a 24mm f2.8-22 lens which my D610 has registered during a fine lens correction.
My conclusion is that my D610 is just got confused.
I haven't made a lens focus correction yet on my 300mm, and I don't know how yet since the closest distance for focus is 13 feet.
Strangely, when I dialed my lens at f4.5-22, my D610 indicates f2.8-16 accordingly; one stop wider.
Could there be some other explanation?
Go to
Page: <<prev 1 ... 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 next>>
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.