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Oct 31, 2019 12:08:12   #
CHG_CANON wrote:
If the arena was this dark, the parents would be on the ice saying their kids wouldn't be playing in these dangerous conditions. Why the refusal to accept the image is underexposed along with the WB issues that you did correct?


Baloney, what is your screen brightness set at?
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Oct 31, 2019 11:42:08   #
Moomoo48 wrote:
I take a lot of pictures of family at ice hockey rinks. 100% of the time Lightroom will help adjust pictures to a presentable level. I shot the attached in a poorly lite rink behind glass with a Nikon D500 and a Nikon AF-S 24-70 mm 1:2.8E lens. As normal I was in shutter priority mode speed in the case of this pix 1/500 and iso 1600.
ISO level is set for automatic.
Can’t figure out what happened and unfortunately I’m going back to the same rink this weekend.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I take a lot of pictures of family at ice hockey r... (show quote)


I decided to post a quickly adjusted image to illustrate what I was saying about only needing a minimal exposure adjustment.
Only ACR was used for this. I first adjusted the color by taking a sample off the number 6 on the back of the players jersey. Next I bumped the exposure 0.3 stops and finally I applied a bit of dehaze to bring out the ice detail. That's it except for down sizing for posting. Except for color balance your camera performed as advertised.


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Oct 31, 2019 10:54:16   #
pithydoug wrote:
No disrespect but if one can't get real close while hand holding, I would suggest a tripod. How many shots will be missed playing the the in camera leveling.


" We should at the least be aware of the horizon and/or strong verticals when composing."
Please note that I did not mention using the camera's artificial horizon. Full disclosure however, I have used that aide both hand held and while using a tripod. It will definitely slow you down, if you obsess over it. Normally it takes no more time than aligning your view finder edge with a distant horizon. Which may, or may not,be truly level.
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Oct 31, 2019 10:36:37   #
Folks, if you will carefully read the OP's original post you will see that he did use Auto ISO. The main problem is not exposure but color balance. First get that right and you will see how little exposure adjustment is required, if any at all depending on personal taste.
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Oct 31, 2019 08:58:09   #
pithydoug wrote:
Unless you don't have edit software, I wouldn't even worry about it while shooting. It's trivial to correct in post.


Yes, it is easy to correct in post. However, if it is bad enough the cropping you will need to do after leveling can be a heavy price to pay. We should at the least be aware of the horizon and/or strong verticals when composing.
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Oct 30, 2019 15:04:00   #
pecohen wrote:
The other day I put a picture up on the wall. When my wife came into the room she said it was crooked and I straightened it out according to her instructions. Then I stood back from it and to my eye it was now crooked. So I went to the garage and brought back a level and adjusted the picture to that standard. We both thought that looked wrong (probably the nearby window trim was a bit off).

The point is that what looks level is not necessarily level; we may decide to go with what looks right anyway but at least it is comforting to know you deliberately made the choice.
The other day I put a picture up on the wall. Whe... (show quote)


When we look at a hanging picture don't we subconsciously compare it's top edge to the wall/ceiling line (or floor, door etc). I always thought I had a good eye for level. Nope! but rather a good feeling for when two lines run parallel or square. Most of us are blessed that way so when we are looking at an image if the main lines don't "fit" correctly the image takes us out of our comfort zone. When there are two strong lines diverging like a ridge line and cloud bottoms, it's time to reach for the Dramamine (or the Buffalo Trace)
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Oct 30, 2019 13:38:04   #
pecohen wrote:
Most editors have a straightening tool and pretty much they do a fine job of rotating the image however they are asked to do so. But let's take your suggestion as an example - one that asks you to specify how many degrees to rotate the image. How do you know that number? With many images, that simply requires a best guess.

To rephrase my question, let me first remind you that my camera knew how many degrees I was off the horizontal when I took the picture (and in fact my camera clearly could report not only the error of rotation but also the error in pitch). My question then is why a camera cannot pass along that information so that an image editor can use it when requested to do so? That would eliminate the guessing. Actually my question was whether any cameras do actually pass along this information and whether any image editors are built to take advantage of that information.
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I think you are suggesting;
1, that our camera records if it was level and if not how much off it was when the shutter was tripped.
2, That editing software be written to correct any leveling errors if we “push the right button”. I like that idea. A LOT!

In the meantime, while I am not familiar with the workings of PS Elements I understand it is very similar to Photoshop. Just in case, Photoshop has a ruler tool that you start at one end of an object and drag to the other. The read out will tell you the length AND THE ANGLE OF THAT LINE. If Elements also has this tool getting an object accurately level is a piece of cake.
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Oct 30, 2019 10:16:57   #
Moomoo48 wrote:
I take a lot of pictures of family at ice hockey rinks. 100% of the time Lightroom will help adjust pictures to a presentable level. I shot the attached in a poorly lite rink behind glass with a Nikon D500 and a Nikon AF-S 24-70 mm 1:2.8E lens. As normal I was in shutter priority mode speed in the case of this pix 1/500 and iso 1600.
ISO level is set for automatic.
Can’t figure out what happened and unfortunately I’m going back to the same rink this weekend.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I take a lot of pictures of family at ice hockey r... (show quote)




You said that ISO was set for auto, what are the min/max ISO numbers you have set


PS: correct the color balance and I think you will find the image only needs about 1/3 stop more exposure.
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Oct 28, 2019 10:44:39   #
RichardTaylor wrote:
Nowdays Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark II (since 2015)
It made geting the "correct" exposure a lot easier. The only real problem is high dynamic range scenes. Then, depending on the scene, I will shoot a hand held HDR, it is only a one button push (once you have set it up) to toggle it.


Thank you. That is good to know
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Oct 28, 2019 10:38:38   #
Some times the long exposure will serve another purpose. This was taken back in the dark ages, hence the B&W. The flow was much less than the image shows. An exposure of about 30 sec (if I recall correctly) was used to turn drips into streams.
(I'll take pastrami lean or fatty. where I live it is an extremely rare commodity and I'll take it anyway I can get it!)


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Oct 28, 2019 10:00:47   #
[quote=RichardTaylor]Try it and see how it works with your camera(s). Check to see if your camera may be ISO invariante).

I do not purposly under expose my images (unless it is for the very rare "artistic" reasons), especially as I now have a live histogram in the viewfinder.

Richard, which camera?
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Oct 26, 2019 11:26:47   #
R Crawford wrote:
Survey question....

Photography is your passion,,, OK so you have invested a lot of money,,, and your family has survived many GAS attacks,,, you have several camera bodies and a trio of “L” glass,,, you shoot a thousand shots a month, and spend hours in post processing.... So now what? What is the final goal? Where do all of these images go? Inquiring minds want to know.


For some of us the process itself is the final goal. We enjoy the doing, the constant learning and the desire to always improve. We have no need to impress anyone. Not for a pay check or even a pat on the head. Kind of like recreational golf.
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Oct 26, 2019 11:03:09   #
billnikon wrote:
As a member of Nikon Professional Services I have received a few $0.00 repairs myself.
Funny story, as a very young photographer for UPI my first out of state assignment was to photograph the 1968 Democratic National Convention held August 26–29 at the International Amphitheatre in Chicago, Illinois. We were told to focus on the protests. What a mistake. Because I was young I could out run most of the senior Police Officers I encountered but some of us were not so fortunate. Most of our F bodies that were taken from us were beyond repairable.
It got so bad UPI told us not to use our Nikon's any more because they were being smashed by Police officers. Believe it or not they sent us Kodak Instamatic Camera's so on the 28th and 29th of August we used those to photograph and we only lost one camera after the Instamatic introduction.
Please, I do not disrespect the police, I have the deepest admiration for them and their services to their communities.
I do want to add that at that time in our history I was happy to have been blessed with long fast legs.
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It sure sounds like you needed those young legs. "The times they were a-changing". Seems like our great country needs to, unfortunately, go through periods of unrest to offset those times of 'relative' calm.
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Oct 26, 2019 09:51:15   #
Returning to the OP's main topic point
Link; https://ayearwithmycamera.com/
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Oct 26, 2019 09:43:34   #
mas24 wrote:
That's not a cheap repair. They charge about $100 more for a failed shutter replacement. But, as my father told me a long time ago. Labor fees ain't free. Nikon will fix it right though. Glad you are OK. Falls are not good to have at any time. I have two Nikon's that are four years old. One DSLR, the other a Bridge camera. I'm lucky to never have sent my DSLR to Nikon for a repair. My Bridge camera, for what it's worth now, would be senseless to repair today.. Good luck.


Bear in mind the price quoted is an estimate. In my experience that estimate is usually higher than the final repair charge. That's just a good PR policy.
As the saying goes , "it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings". I actually had a final charge of $0.00 one time
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