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Nov 22, 2023 12:15:09   #
dennis2146 wrote:
Not your decision????? Come on little hiawatha, you are a v**er, are you not? You have input to your state's political decisions, do you not? Isn't your state a representative government as is all American states? Of course it is your decision. Regulations/laws of all types are pursuant to the decisions of ALL v**ers, are they not?

Examples are every state who does ALLOW a******ns with the only difference, to me at least, being the time frame with which to get an a******n. That is the proof is it not? I am not positive but don't ALL states allow a******ns depending on the time frame? Perhaps you recall when NO states allowed a******ns and so they were done in back alleys by people who often did much damage to the pregnant mother.

Dennis
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Denise, when was the last time YOU v**ed for or against a******n?
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Nov 22, 2023 12:08:53   #
btbg wrote:
What other move would you suggest he take? Austin will never listen to reason unless he is made extremely uncomfortable for the position he is taking. It is morally reprehensible and against federal law.


Can you provide sourcing for being against Federal law? If you want morally reprehensible, WAR is morally reprehensible. Cut military spending to zero and hide under a rock. The closest thing I could find relative to illegal is from Tuberville, "Republican Senator Tommy Tuberville of Alabama argues that paying for travel to an a******n provider violates the spirit of Hyde". So it violates the "spirit" of the law, that does not mean illegal. Republican members of Congress say they plan to try to make the policy explicitly illegal. Therefore, if the GOP plans to try to make the policy illegal, it must not be illegal now.
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Nov 22, 2023 11:50:01   #
dennis2146 wrote:
It would seem women are not responsible given the facts that millions of them need an a******n at all. I am not counting rapes and incest. I am perfectly happy if women get an a******n for those reasons. They were forced into the negative situation. But women who wanted a girl and find out they are having a boy should not have any right to an a******n in my opinion. Women who have sex and do not use something presently available to not get pregnant should have been more responsible to begin with. That is the part of the word, responsible, I am talking about. In your reply you tell us women are responsible. Well then how is it they are pregnant? Numerous birth control methods are available and yet.....here they are. Where was the responsible part? When does that come in?

You tend to forget a******n is and always has been a moral issue. It deals with k*****g a baby, a fetus. I don't recall which Conservative many months ago posted photos of babies in the womb that could feel pain, looked exactly like a human baby with distinct fingers, toes, facial features, sex of child known, etc. Somewhere between a group of cells and that point an a******n in my opinion and I speak only for myself, an a******n would be acceptable. But those on the Left, sounds like you, are of the opinion, if a woman up to the end of the 8th month or maybe even further, a******n is perfectly fine with you, wh**ever the woman decides. I ask you, when is your cut off date? Is it the day before the baby is born? 6 months, what?

Are there states right now that have decided a******n will NOT, under any circumstances, be done in those states? If not then it would seem a******n IS supported by those states but at varying time differences. AGAIN, what is your cut off time? You are pushing a false and corrupt agenda when you tell us Republicans do not support a******n. Republicans support a******ns that do not murder an innocent baby.

Dennis
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Denise, you obviously didn't read my prior response, You, of the pick and choose. I don't have a cut off time frame, since IT IS NOT MY DECISION. You state, "Republicans support a******ns that do not murder an innocent baby." Give examples, if you are able.
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Nov 21, 2023 20:26:17   #
btbg wrote:
What the heck are you asking? You dont need sourcing. I posted a current definition of life. Life does not change from one species to another so human life is human life. It really is that simple. A fetus is alive by definition, and a human fetus by definition is human.

That is a scientific fact. It is not locker room talk. If it is alive it is human. What species would you try to claim a fetus is?


I asked you a question, which apparently you are unable to answer.
Some scientists will say it's at implantation, where you get a pregnancy. Other scientists will say it's at day 14, gastrulation, where the embryo becomes an individual, where you can no longer form twins and triplets, so that you have one embryo giving rise to, at best, only one adult.
A human life may be considered a human person at fertilization. On the other hand, others attribute personhood once the physical appearance of a fetus resembles the mature human form at about week 9 of gestation during embryogenesis.
At the end of the 8th week after fertilization (10 weeks of pregnancy), the embryo is considered a fetus. During this stage, the structures that have already formed grow and develop. The following are markers during pregnancy: By 12 weeks of pregnancy: The fetus fills the entire uterus.
You might also refer to: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3713799/
Do not try to force your potentially false conclusions on me. Real scientists can't even agree.
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Nov 21, 2023 19:26:49   #
btbg wrote:
That is a ludicrous premise. There are far more black babies aborted per capita than white babies. In fact that was the entire purpose that planned parenthood was started on was to eliminate "inferior" races.

Since you can not possibly argue that a fetus is not life, you are forced to engage in mental gymnastics in order to try to justify taking that life. Just admit that you do not respect life and are OK with ending it. Because that is the only way to justify a******n.


So btbg, at what point does a life (cell division) become a human life (in fact)? Please provide legitimate sourcing and not just "locker room" talk.
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Nov 21, 2023 17:23:08   #
btbg wrote:
Its morally wrong to support a******n access. A******n is murder. The left disputes that but biology is clear that life begins at conception so a******ni is by definotion taking a life. You can explain and justify it any way you like but the fact is that scientifically it takes a life.

Women have free access to birth control so there is no excuse for a******n. If you are rigjt that a******n is of greater importance to v**ers than immigration and the economy then we as a country deserve any judgement from God that we receive.

If conservatives capitulate on a******n then they are no better than the current administration and God fearing Americans shoulnt bother to v**e.

With that said a******n is a moral issue not a legislative one and it is virtually impossible to legislate morality. Conservatives should completely reject a******n as evil and should provide support and other options but not necessarily legislate against it.
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What is your specific source for "biology is clear that life begins at conception"? GOP white papers?
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Nov 21, 2023 14:50:17   #
dennis2146 wrote:
Take a look back at my post hiawatha. I never mentioned specific states did I. I said 15 weeks because some states are thinking along those lines. As you may have guessed each individual state is coming up with their own laws. What is your length of time for which a woman should have an a******n? Is it 9 months, maybe just AFTER the baby is born perhaps? What is it? How long DOES it take for a woman to decide she does/does not want to keep the baby? In not to long a time the fetus starts looking crazily enough, go figure huh, exactly like a human being, a human baby. Is that still not enough time for a woman to k**l it. Women are smart aren't they? Shouldn't they be responsible TOO?

Dennis
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Denise, you're so finicky about correct word usage/spelling, you failed to use too, instead of to, in too long a time. They are smart enough to NOT NEED GOP "guidance" in when to make that decision. I quote "A******n access IS supported by the GOP." BS. Who in the GOP supports a******n access? Abbott? Noem? Little? Parson? Reeves? Stitt? Huckabee-Sanders? "What is your length of time for which a woman should have an a******n?" As long as it takes. It's not my decision, nor is it yours, nor the GOPs. Women are responsible, given the chance.
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Nov 21, 2023 12:08:16   #
dennis2146 wrote:
First off, didn't you really mean to use the word, cite, rather than, site? Trying to help you out here.

Next we were not talking about deciding issues of the day were we?

Your claim, a******n access Trumps the issues, is also pretty screwed up from a literate writing point of view. AGAIN, the word you are looking for would be used as, issues I CITE, not site. The Attic is a computer SITE. Also as used in your sentence, the word, trumps, is not capitalized.

A******n access IS supported by the GOP. Almost every state IS allowing access to a******ns. Yet it is you on the Left who continue to lie saying the GOP is against a******ns. We are not. We simply ask that the woman decide in approximately 15 weeks depending on the individual state. Are you honestly telling me a woman is not capable of deciding YES or NO on aborting a child?

Have a wonderful day now.

Dennis
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Your time frame reply is BS. Especially in FL, ID, ND, SD,WI, WV, IN, MO, KY, TN, OK, LA, AR, MS AL, GA, and TX (6 wks). "Are you honestly telling me a woman is not capable of deciding YES or NO on aborting a child?" No one can tell you much of anything, however the GOP says they are not.
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Nov 9, 2023 13:46:17   #
dennis2146 wrote:
Is there a point you are trying to make? Are you saying Democrats have never blocked any Republican from office? Isn't that why there are Congressional hearings where a potential candidate is looked upon in hearings? Perhaps you forget the woman, Blasey Ford, who lied and said Justice Kavanaugh physically assaulted her; she thought he was going to rape her. Of course she later said she made those comments for political reasons. She also pointed out she could not remember the place, date and time, people involved or much of anything else. Ever her best friend, at the location too, state she did not believe Blasey Ford was telling the t***h. Other men came forward to say they were the males involved but of course the Left rejected their claim. Pretty F'd up complaint wasn't it. Of course Blasey Ford made tons of money even though she is a LIAR.

So Merrick Garland did not get the position he wanted. Well isn't that just a shame. Do you really cry yourself to sleep every night over this taking place even though Blasey Ford lied about the entire event.

Oh wait...were you trying to be serious here?

Dennis
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Well Denise, once again you neglect to state your sources. Ford didn't lie, unlike you.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/christine-blasey-ford-attorneys-release-polygraph-results-on-kavanaugh-allegations/
So your lying POS Kavanaugh made it through along with your other liar Barrett.
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Nov 9, 2023 12:30:23   #
dennis2146 wrote:
That is a complete lie and you know it. Right after Trump installed a number of Conservative SCOTUS Justices it was the Left, that would be YOU, who wanted to completely change the make up of SCOTUS to allow more Left Wing Justices. Please tell me this is not true so I can AGAIN call you a liar. Others will hopefully help me out here but it is the Left who wants to make changes to ensure their winning of e******ns. The Judge in Pennsylvania allowing mail in b****ts to be submitted longer than was legally enacted is another example.

Now what were you saying about the MAGA-GOP party and changes? Do you on the lying corrupt Left even have any idea of the level of your corruption. Hell, with your party corruption you make Joe Biden with his criminal acts and corruption seem to be an angel.

Dennis
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As usual Denise you left some facts out of your diatribe and name calling.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/20/fact-check-gop-senators-blocked-nomination-merrick-garland-2016/5916555002/
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/29/624467256/what-happened-with-merrick-garland-in-2016-and-why-it-matters-now
And this only touches the surface of the MAGA-GOP party and changes of the lying corrupt Right. Hell, with your party corruption you make DJT with his criminal acts and corruption seem to be an innocent angel and nominee bound.
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Nov 4, 2023 13:59:32   #
Frank T wrote:
That's DNA, not DA
DA is the guy that prosecuted you for your crimes.


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Nov 4, 2023 13:02:49   #
T***h Seeker wrote:
ESAD


SO CLEVER. NOT!
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Nov 4, 2023 12:50:37   #
T***h Seeker wrote:
Go jump in a volcano!


LOL. LOL.
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Nov 4, 2023 12:49:57   #
Except for the term "a$$hole" Denise said he could walk into a store and buy one. Is that too hard for you to comprehend? MGYAFS.
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Nov 4, 2023 12:35:24   #
As I said TS, I quoted Denise's response, therefore I CAN"T BE a LIAR. That label rests with Denise. You two children can duke it out. MGYAFS.
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