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Feb 27, 2019 18:47:58   #
ggab Loc: ?
 
elee950021 wrote:
but today's camera equipment have razor-thin profits.



Gulp, Gulp, Gulp.....How's the Kool Aid?
You would be shocked at the margins larger dealers have!

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Feb 27, 2019 18:50:47   #
Bipod
 
What do you all expect from a Youtube video?
Self-publishing -- no editor.

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Feb 27, 2019 19:13:05   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Personally, I have an aversion to too much hyperbole, exaggeration, bombast, and redundancy when it comes to technological facts, let alone sales and endorsement of equipment. Excessive drama turns me off because it gets in the way of facts. Even if the information is correct, I become suspect thinking "why is this guy getting all belligerent, dramatic and ben out of shape rather than just presenting the facts". The best, valid opinions or important messages can get lost in the hype.

Many years ago, Modern Photography Magazine ran an extremely comprehensive and through equipment testing section. They maintian a lab in New York where cameras and lenses were disassembled, analyzed and reported on under laboratory conditions. Lenses were tested with optical bench criteria with electronic and optical instrumentation and charts and graphs were published with specific performance data as to sharpness, resolution, contrast, aberrations, distortion, edge fall of, diffraction and other readings at various apertures, distances, focal length setting (for zoom lenses) as well as for flare, internal reflections, and mechanical performance and construction. This information was accompanied by reproductions of test targets and oftentimes photographs made in the filed and a general review.

The facts were laid out and then it was up to the reader or consumer as to what they were willing to pay for in terms of optimum performance or what the could live with and work around but with the advantage of a lower price.

Frankly, I don't know if any publication or online resource is currently doing anything like this. Even just general honest reviews of practical findings based on actual field tests would hold some water for me.

As a professional photographer, I also find that certain findings do come in via the "grapevine". Folks in each of our particular fields get to know which are the reliable workhorse cameras and lenses. Good stuff garners a good rap and inferior products fall out of favor rather quickly. Bad news does tend to travel quickly so the real junk is exposed in short order.

If I am contemplating the purchase of an expensive lens, I will do some research, try to gather some practical scuttlebutt for my friendly competitors and cohorts. I try to purchase from a local source so I can arrange an in-depth demonstration or if I have to outsource my purchase to a dealer out of my geographic location, I make certain that I am dealing with a reliable retailer with a sound guarantee and return policy. This will give me the opportunity to do some comprehensive field tests.

I am not going go to through all of this work, research and intense testing for a casual purchase of a lens that I am going to use for personal, shall I say, hobby purposes or a used item for a few hundred dollars- I will take my chances. Some of the lenses I require for professional use, however, are for applications that require high degrees of enlargement and very high acutance and are going to cost thousands of dollars so more diligent research and work is justified.

"Angry rants and one-sided opinions just get in the way- it's unnecessary. If an "expert" has a negative opinion of any particular make or model, the should simply explain where the shortcomings are and not call it junk or "crap". Not everyone can afford all the top-of-the-line gear or doesn't require something that will stand up to continual hard service and will make do with what they CAN afford as long as they understand the attributes and limitation and are willing to make do and work around certain issues.
Personally, I have an aversion to too much hyperbo... (show quote)


I agree with you.

However, on the internet clicks are similar to circulation in the print industry. Just calling himself The Angry Photographer adds to the clicks. If he just provided the facts he would not stand out from the crowd. His style, or lack of it, makes him somewhat unique. I have never watched any of his 'shows' to the end.

Personally I prefer Matt Granger. In addition to showing how he gets results he has some very attractive models. Win, win.

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Feb 27, 2019 19:34:46   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
graybeard wrote:
You Tube's "Angry Photographer" says that Sigma lenses are all pure junk. End of story. Just junk. He also rarely even mention's Canon, and he often goes off topic into long rants. Any comments ??


Why do you bother to waste your time. He is demented and his toxic views are not worth a listen.

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Feb 27, 2019 19:39:25   #
E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
 
Bill_de wrote:
I agree with you.

However, on the internet clicks are similar to circulation in the print industry. Just calling himself The Angry Photographer adds to the clicks. If he just provided the facts he would not stand out from the crowd. His style, or lack of it, makes him somewhat unique. I have never watched any of his 'shows' to the end.

Personally I prefer Matt Granger. In addition to showing how he gets results he has some very attractive models. Win, win.

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I agree with you. br br However, on the internet... (show quote)



Yes! It's like tabloid journalism. Some folks respond to scandal, exaggeration and rankor- it sells lots of newspaper and probably attracts lots of blog fans.

I used to like the TV cooking shows eith Julia Childs, The Galloping Gourmet, and Rachel Ray.The showed us how to make interesting dishes. Nowadays, the most popular TV chefs yell, cuss and scream their underlings and spit out food that they disapprove of. Unfortunately, theses things are indicative of many attitudes in our society.

I'll take good information and pretty models any day!

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Feb 27, 2019 19:44:22   #
MauiMoto Loc: Hawaii
 
From what I have gathered, he grew up repairing and polishing lenses every day, probably a family business. He has a good grasp of physics and worked for a large photography store doing repair and sales, where he got hands on experience with all brands and his favorites are Nikon, Fuji and some high end lens makers like Zeiss. (Nikon and Zeiss were partnered around WWII) He also spent many years as a full time caregiver to his terminally ill, late wife. I think Fuji is his favorite because he criticizes Nikon a lot, that could also be because I don't watch many of his Fuji videos. If you sift through all of the meaningless "rant" and negativity on this thread by those so easily offended or think they know everything already you can come to the conclusion that this guy, like more than a few on this forum, has a lot of experience and knowledge.

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Feb 27, 2019 19:48:32   #
Dallas P
 
fetzler wrote:
I bought a lens based on his recommendation. I was not at all concerned about his style just the convincing data he presented. The data included real photos.


I watched him until I saw someone convincingly call him out for using other photographers' pictures and claiming they were his own. Hard to trust him about anything after that. Also I have a Sigma 50 mm Art that is just about the best lens I have ever put on the front end of a camera.

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Feb 27, 2019 19:59:13   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
Black Elk Peak wrote:
A foul mouthed fool, oaf, nincompoop, clown, dunce, dolt, dullard, ignoramus, simpleton; informalidiot, cretin, imbecile, nitwit, halfwit, ninny, dope, dimwit, dumbo, dummy, ass, jerk, nerd, dum-dum, loon, chump, goon, jackass, fathead, blockhead, numbskull, dunderhead, meathead, dipstick, bonehead, chucklehead, clod, goop, knucklehead, lamebrain, peabrain, pudding-head, thickhead, wooden-head, pinhead, airhead, birdbrain, dumbbell, donkey, stupe, noodle.

Couldn't watch more than 30 seconds.



Vaughan K.
A foul mouthed fool, oaf, nincompoop, clown, dunce... (show quote)


Don't sugar coat it. Tell us what you really think.

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Feb 27, 2019 20:06:54   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
gompfer wrote:
The Angry photographer thinks Sigma is junk because they don't hold up over the long haul. They break because they are not that well made. He has never said the glass wouldn't give you a nice picture just the quality of manufacture.


I have had a few Sigma lenses in the past and never had an issue, other than their weight. That is a bold statement. Can you back it up with a creditable source?

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Feb 27, 2019 20:08:34   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Yes! It's like tabloid journalism. Some folks respond to scandal, exaggeration and rankor- it sells lots of newspaper and probably attracts lots of blog fans.

I used to like the TV cooking shows eith Julia Childs, The Galloping Gourmet, and Rachel Ray.The showed us how to make interesting dishes. Nowadays, the most popular TV chefs yell, cuss and scream their underlings and spit out food that they disapprove of. Unfortunately, theses things are indicative of many attitudes in our society.

I'll take good information and pretty models any day!
Yes! It's like tabloid journalism. Some folks res... (show quote)


I hear you.

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Feb 27, 2019 20:31:35   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
joer wrote:
I have had a few Sigma lenses in the past and never had an issue, other than their weight. That is a bold statement. Can you back it up with a creditable source?


Listen to his videos.

It’s not in question that he had said this.

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Feb 27, 2019 20:33:34   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
joer wrote:
I have had a few Sigma lenses in the past and never had an issue, other than their weight. That is a bold statement. Can you back it up with a creditable source?


My 400 5.6 had never let me down, but it’s lightly used.

It’s not overly heavy, but in a pinch I could use it for a baseball bat.

Other than that I have no personal experience with SIGMA lenses.

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Feb 27, 2019 20:41:07   #
Riverrat2 Loc: South East Idaho
 
Don't hold back Vaughan. Tell us how you really feel. I have never heard of him before, and don't own any Sigma products, so I can't venture an opinion.

Lloyd

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Feb 27, 2019 21:03:50   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
I got pissed at The Angry Photographer when he ranted that the Nikon 105mm 1.4 was a "colossal fail".

That lens is one of my favorites of many great lenses.

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Feb 27, 2019 22:54:42   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
ggab wrote:
How does he acquire the lenses he evaluates??


He goes to B&H when he needs lenses, skims one or two off the conveyor belt and then sneaks out the back door with the help of an insider.

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