The "Angry Photographer"
Feb 27, 2019 13:23:21 #
tiphareth51
Loc: Somewhere near North Pole, Alaska
Sigma has really upped their game with their Global Vision Art series. My two are tack sharp right out of the box. It is sad that he does not recognize that Nikon is not the only game in town any more. There are a few of these 'characters' on you tube that are not worth my time.
Feb 27, 2019 13:43:04 #
Jamers
Loc: Michigan
Black Elk Peak wrote:
A foul mouthed fool, oaf, nincompoop, clown, dunce... (show quote)
Besides that, what do you think of him?
Feb 27, 2019 13:49:08 #
I had a similar opinion of Sigma's, and Tamron's, older lenses. Sigma's newer ART series lenses are highly rated (by me as an owner). Sigma's Sport models are pretty good and, I've heard, so are the Tamron G2 versions. I personally own several ART lenses, and have owned one Sigma Sport. Best of luck.
Feb 27, 2019 13:51:49 #
I've bought 5 lenses that he recommended and kept 4 of them. I find his critiques to be pretty good.
He uses mostly Nikon or Fuji cameras, which is why he talks about them the most. However, you might not like his style or tone, but I find him quite accurate in his descriptions and critiques. He also looks for lenses of great value and not always the most expensive. I have discovered 3 older Nikon manual focus lenses for around $100 each, which are all quite good. Now if I actually used them all, but that's another topic for another day.
He uses mostly Nikon or Fuji cameras, which is why he talks about them the most. However, you might not like his style or tone, but I find him quite accurate in his descriptions and critiques. He also looks for lenses of great value and not always the most expensive. I have discovered 3 older Nikon manual focus lenses for around $100 each, which are all quite good. Now if I actually used them all, but that's another topic for another day.
Feb 27, 2019 14:05:22 #
RRS
Loc: Not sure
foathog wrote:
WHO CARES? There are people on the internet saying that the Clintons ran a child prostitution ring in a pizza store too. The sky is falling bud. You better duck.
Gee, did you have to bring that up again? Most everyone had written that one off.
Feb 27, 2019 14:06:53 #
sirlensalot
Loc: Arizona
My opinion of Mr. Wheeler - he seems love legacy glass as much or more than new productions, is definitely biased towards Nikon and Fuji bodies, slightly less so with their lenses. More opinion than facts. He is IMO akin to Ken Rockwell but on the other end of the spectrum. KR seems to love everything, KW appears to hate most everything. If nothing else, he is slightly off center and fun to listen to - for a few minutes. LOL
Feb 27, 2019 14:17:55 #
gompfer wrote:
The Angry photographer thinks Sigma is junk because they don't hold up over the long haul. They break because they are not that well made. He has never said the glass wouldn't give you a nice picture just the quality of manufacture.
...anecdotal. I've owned my 24-70 f2.8 for 10 years and it's still on one of my bodies, sharp as ever, has been dropped, painted on and *used.* Recently got the 24-105 Art so I guess we'll see on that one (but love the image quality). Also have the 15mm fisheye and love it. Yes, anecdotal (as most of what we put on here is). AFA the Angry one, he knows his stuff but seems a bit (ahem) partisan and I've stopped listening to his rants.
Feb 27, 2019 15:08:41 #
He complained about the Sony A9 as too expensive for a made in Malaysia camera vs his XT-2 made in Japan. When he talked about the XT-3 he didn't complain about the fact that it's made in China.
Feb 27, 2019 15:08:50 #
Black Elk Peak wrote:
A foul mouthed fool, oaf, nincompoop, clown, dunce... (show quote)
Don't beat about the bush say what you mean. lol
Feb 27, 2019 15:29:23 #
graybeard wrote:
You Tube's "Angry Photographer" says that Sigma lenses are all pure junk. End of story. Just junk. He also rarely even mention's Canon, and he often goes off topic into long rants. Any comments ??
Why would anyone bother listening to such nonsense? If you have a good Sigma lens (I do) then you know he's an idiot.
Feb 27, 2019 15:39:56 #
He is apparently expressing his opinions and I'm sure we all know what is said about opinions and what they are like.
Feb 27, 2019 18:03:07 #
Personally, I have an aversion to too much hyperbole, exaggeration, bombast, and redundancy when it comes to technological facts, let alone sales and endorsement of equipment. Excessive drama turns me off because it gets in the way of facts. Even if the information is correct, I become suspect thinking "why is this guy getting all belligerent, dramatic and ben out of shape rather than just presenting the facts". The best, valid opinions or important messages can get lost in the hype.
Many years ago, Modern Photography Magazine ran an extremely comprehensive and through equipment testing section. They maintian a lab in New York where cameras and lenses were disassembled, analyzed and reported on under laboratory conditions. Lenses were tested with optical bench criteria with electronic and optical instrumentation and charts and graphs were published with specific performance data as to sharpness, resolution, contrast, aberrations, distortion, edge fall of, diffraction and other readings at various apertures, distances, focal length setting (for zoom lenses) as well as for flare, internal reflections, and mechanical performance and construction. This information was accompanied by reproductions of test targets and oftentimes photographs made in the filed and a general review.
The facts were laid out and then it was up to the reader or consumer as to what they were willing to pay for in terms of optimum performance or what the could live with and work around but with the advantage of a lower price.
Frankly, I don't know if any publication or online resource is currently doing anything like this. Even just general honest reviews of practical findings based on actual field tests would hold some water for me.
As a professional photographer, I also find that certain findings do come in via the "grapevine". Folks in each of our particular fields get to know which are the reliable workhorse cameras and lenses. Good stuff garners a good rap and inferior products fall out of favor rather quickly. Bad news does tend to travel quickly so the real junk is exposed in short order.
If I am contemplating the purchase of an expensive lens, I will do some research, try to gather some practical scuttlebutt for my friendly competitors and cohorts. I try to purchase from a local source so I can arrange an in-depth demonstration or if I have to outsource my purchase to a dealer out of my geographic location, I make certain that I am dealing with a reliable retailer with a sound guarantee and return policy. This will give me the opportunity to do some comprehensive field tests.
I am not going go to through all of this work, research and intense testing for a casual purchase of a lens that I am going to use for personal, shall I say, hobby purposes or a used item for a few hundred dollars- I will take my chances. Some of the lenses I require for professional use, however, are for applications that require high degrees of enlargement and very high acutance and are going to cost thousands of dollars so more diligent research and work is justified.
"Angry rants and one-sided opinions just get in the way- it's unnecessary. If an "expert" has a negative opinion of any particular make or model, the should simply explain where the shortcomings are and not call it junk or "crap". Not everyone can afford all the top-of-the-line gear or doesn't require something that will stand up to continual hard service and will make do with what they CAN afford as long as they understand the attributes and limitation and are willing to make do and work around certain issues.
Many years ago, Modern Photography Magazine ran an extremely comprehensive and through equipment testing section. They maintian a lab in New York where cameras and lenses were disassembled, analyzed and reported on under laboratory conditions. Lenses were tested with optical bench criteria with electronic and optical instrumentation and charts and graphs were published with specific performance data as to sharpness, resolution, contrast, aberrations, distortion, edge fall of, diffraction and other readings at various apertures, distances, focal length setting (for zoom lenses) as well as for flare, internal reflections, and mechanical performance and construction. This information was accompanied by reproductions of test targets and oftentimes photographs made in the filed and a general review.
The facts were laid out and then it was up to the reader or consumer as to what they were willing to pay for in terms of optimum performance or what the could live with and work around but with the advantage of a lower price.
Frankly, I don't know if any publication or online resource is currently doing anything like this. Even just general honest reviews of practical findings based on actual field tests would hold some water for me.
As a professional photographer, I also find that certain findings do come in via the "grapevine". Folks in each of our particular fields get to know which are the reliable workhorse cameras and lenses. Good stuff garners a good rap and inferior products fall out of favor rather quickly. Bad news does tend to travel quickly so the real junk is exposed in short order.
If I am contemplating the purchase of an expensive lens, I will do some research, try to gather some practical scuttlebutt for my friendly competitors and cohorts. I try to purchase from a local source so I can arrange an in-depth demonstration or if I have to outsource my purchase to a dealer out of my geographic location, I make certain that I am dealing with a reliable retailer with a sound guarantee and return policy. This will give me the opportunity to do some comprehensive field tests.
I am not going go to through all of this work, research and intense testing for a casual purchase of a lens that I am going to use for personal, shall I say, hobby purposes or a used item for a few hundred dollars- I will take my chances. Some of the lenses I require for professional use, however, are for applications that require high degrees of enlargement and very high acutance and are going to cost thousands of dollars so more diligent research and work is justified.
"Angry rants and one-sided opinions just get in the way- it's unnecessary. If an "expert" has a negative opinion of any particular make or model, the should simply explain where the shortcomings are and not call it junk or "crap". Not everyone can afford all the top-of-the-line gear or doesn't require something that will stand up to continual hard service and will make do with what they CAN afford as long as they understand the attributes and limitation and are willing to make do and work around certain issues.
Feb 27, 2019 18:06:55 #
graybeard wrote:
You Tube's "Angry Photographer" says that Sigma lenses are all pure junk. End of story. Just junk. He also rarely even mention's Canon, and he often goes off topic into long rants. Any comments ??
Yes, I never watch, read or listen to him !....
The sad reality is He is only following the psyche of today's society
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Feb 27, 2019 18:20:00 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
graybeard wrote:
You Tube's "Angry Photographer" says that Sigma lenses are all pure junk. End of story. Just junk. He also rarely even mention's Canon, and he often goes off topic into long rants. Any comments ??
He virtually is a Nikon guy. He claims that he has no affiliation with Nikon anymore. But, he was a Camera Salesman at one time, and he claims he was able to test cameras and lenses, by having that job, before buying them. He did say that the Tokina 100mm f2.8 Macro lens, was better than Nikon's 105mm f2.8 Micro (Macro) lens. I found that a surprising statement from him, being a Nikon guy. Sigma Art Lenses are among the best quality lenses.
Feb 27, 2019 18:43:44 #
ggab
Loc: ?
rjaywallace wrote:
I respectfully disagree. Theoria Apophasis (aka K... (show quote)
How does he acquire the lenses he evaluates??
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