Camera and Lens info should be posted with photos (Page 13): AMEN !

soloboogie Loc: Bunker Hill, Indiana

Donkas1946 wrote:

Sorry but based on the situation a better camera will take a better picture. I am a seasoned photographer and really don’t post much here but some times I must chime in. You can’t make a blanket statement like that. Example. My 5d mkiii does a much better job than by 60d. My 7d Mkii does a better job for Sports and wildlife than my 5diii. Than add the variations of lenses and there you have it. So sorry to disagree, just experience talking. Have a great new year!

AMEN !

Donkas1946 Loc: Southern NH

Linda From Maine wrote:

Now boys, does mommy need to put you both in a time-out? HAVE RESPECT for others and take your pissing contest to private messaging, please!

Geese the sarcasm is getting worse. I’ve had it. This is like playing solitaire. It’s just that you emphasize clarity and barely touch on any other factor. Sensors, color, noise. Big difference amongst different cameras.

All done, bye mom!

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Donkas1946 wrote:

Geese the sarcasm is getting worse. I’ve had it. This is like playing solitaire. It’s just that you emphasize clarity and barely touch on any other factor. Sensors, color, noise. Big difference amongst different cameras.

All done, bye mom!

You must be referring to some other you, because I've said nothing about clarity in this topic. But I am happy to be considered the mom-adult in the room when it comes to boys and their egos.

soloboogie Loc: Bunker Hill, Indiana

Linda From Maine wrote:

The statement, i "You only adjust ISO to get... (show quote)

Thanks for not using hatchets and knives.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

soloboogie wrote:

Thanks for not using hatchets and knives.

I apologize for not having made my case earlier; I'm usually not so cavalier.

Elmerviking

“Mommy”... what’s wrong with a heated discussion? You were a bit aggressive yourself when you claimed ISO is not just for adjusting shutter speed ( which of course is correct). If you don’t like it why not just don’t read it? You are not the only experienced here!
/Daddy

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Elmerviking wrote:

“Mommy”... what’s wrong with a heated discussion? You were a bit aggressive yourself when you claimed ISO is not just for adjusting shutter speed ( which of course is correct). If you don’t like it why not just don’t read it? You are not the only experienced here!
/Daddy

Clarifying a point about settings or calling someone a dork...hmm, let me recheck my user manual on how to have a meaningful discussion.

gessman Loc: Colorado

What troubles me most about this thread and the many others like it is the mindless struggle against curiosity and experimentation on the part of so many members. It's like you're trying to be self-appointed gate-keepers against other people wanting to look over the next hill or around the next curve and FOR WHAT??? Are you trying to hold others back from getting a jump on you. Anyone in their right mind knows that it takes a camera to fulfill a photographer's dream barring a shift to painting to express their vision and everyone knows that to deny that one camera can be better than another in facilitating that expression is short-sighted and self-defeating if the task demands certain features that aren't present on all cameras.

We have one member here who is excellent at what he does but he perpetually proudly proclaims that he will never use certain features on any camera such as auto ISO. Well, the guy almost exclusively shoots rocks that haven't moved in billions of years but he never bothers to qualify that. If he ever comes out of his "stone-age" posturing he'll be discovering those feature that facilitate the shooting of movement or he'll suffer total defeat going from excellence to "crash and burn." I'm curious and I experiment and that's what's in it for me. I WANT to know how an image is achieved, as much as I can possibly find out about it, not because I want to replicate it but simply because there is so much to be understood about how things are that isn't evident and I don't want anyone standing between me and my curiosity, still, at 82, and my ability to understand what happened that caused an interesting image to appear.

I realize it's different for a person seeking to earn a living with a camera but for the rest of us, I see no reason why any of you should try to come between other people and their curiosity when it has no direct affect on you. We are taught all our lives to be curious. Why should it be any different when it comes to cameras.

Elmerviking

I take that back..calling him a dork. I should have chosen a better word...don’t know which. To my excuse I became a bit upset when ppl put words in my mouth I never said.
“ Daddy”

Shutterbug57

Linda From Maine wrote:

Now boys, does mommy need to put you both in a time-out? HAVE RESPECT for others and take your pissing contest to private messaging, please!

Mommy Dearest is on the loose.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Elmerviking wrote:

I take that back..calling him a dork. I should have chosen a better word...don’t know which. To my excuse I became a bit upset when ppl put words in my mouth I never said.
“ Daddy”

ad ho·mi·nem
(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

"Heated discussions" may (or may not) lead to learning and growing. Personal attacks, not so much.

Bill_de Loc: US

Maybe we should do it a little differently. Just post the information ---

18 - 200mm @ 127mm -- F/7.1 -- SS 1/4,000 -- ISO LO 0.3 -- Distance 12' 6" / 3810 mm

Please use those settings and post an outstanding image that complies.

Now that will be a learning experience!

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Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Shutterbug57 wrote:

Mommy Dearest is on the loose.

I never saw the movie but various reviews say:

cruel, abusive alcoholic
sadistic control freak

How did you know?! 🤓

Bipod

Linda From Maine wrote:

Clarifying a point about settings or calling someone a dork...hmm, let me recheck my user manual on how to have a meaningful discussion.

Three cheers for an end to name-calling, abuse, threats, etc

But let's extend this protection to every poster -- not just our pals
and those with whom we agree.

Wallen Loc: Middle Earth

gessman wrote:

That's a pretty shot but are you unaware that your... (show quote)

Phone imaging/effects/editing apps are imho mainly just eye candy that leads to limited/false creativity. My phone has a built in professional mode which is next to useless as they are mainly electronic mumbojumbo that does not change aperture or focal length. Except for timer and shutter speed, It is better to have photoshop manipulate what it can.
I've already stated that details can be found in the files metadata, hence what matters more is the technique and technical know-how of the user. Such knowledge is precious so it is a prerogative to share them or not so i encourage those who want to repeat someone else work to experiment and learn the full capability of their tools. I also explained what i did in photoshop so whats with the accusation?