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Jan 7, 2019 17:29:36   #
jliane Loc: Washington state
 
I like to see settings in the post as well, in addition to where the shot was taken as I have learned from a number of people where I'd like to travel.

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Jan 7, 2019 17:30:12   #
latebloomer Loc: Topeka, KS
 
imagemeister wrote:
For some, laziness and time out of their busy day. For others they do not want to divulge their "proprietary" artistic techniques ....such is a competitive world Some figure, nobody helped them learn - so why should they help others ??


It looks like this is an interesting psychological issue.
If I wasn't retired and if I was working at a university, I would like to do a research project on this. It might be related to other choices people make. There is no good or bad about this. I find our reasons for choices interesting. We are a most interesting species.

As far as "proprietary" is concerned, it doesn't seem to affect famous photographers who write books, do videos, and workshops. They readily give all the information possible. Harold Davis, John Gerlach, Mike Moats, etc. seem to do well without keeping their information secret.

I can see folks successful in selling their work trying to keep their post processing techniques secret if they want to stay competitive.

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Jan 7, 2019 17:31:38   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
burkphoto wrote:
In our house, that is all too often ping-pong balls!
rotfl

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Jan 7, 2019 17:33:36   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
jackm1943 wrote:
There are a handful of presenters on this website, such as Dave Chinn, who routinely put out stunningly beautiful work (IMO) and I would love to know more about the PP they use to achieve such good work.
Have you approached him and asked about a tutorial?

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Jan 7, 2019 17:34:16   #
jliane Loc: Washington state
 
Guilty as charged. I will try to post more if I think I have something worthwhile. I do appreciate this site and helpful people, but I'm mostly not up to the standards I see here.

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Jan 7, 2019 17:39:29   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
soloboogie wrote:
... You only adjust ISO to get better detail (low ISO) or a faster shutter speed (high ISO)
This is incomplete and misleading.

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Jan 7, 2019 17:47:43   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Elmerviking wrote:
Omg...
I just meant that a lousy photographer will never be better if he buys the most modern or sofisticated equipment. The composition and content means everything, not what he used to take the photo!
Unfortunately many believe they will be better if they buy a professional, advanced camera or lens, which is not true! Even “entry level” cameras with cheap kit lenses can produce amazing pictures!


Thanks for clarifying. Your original post made it seem like there is never a reason to buy better equipment.

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Jan 7, 2019 17:53:31   #
Elmerviking
 
papakatz45 wrote:
Thanks for clarifying. Your original post made it seem like there is never a reason to buy better equipment.


I am glad you got it! Thank you!

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Jan 7, 2019 18:14:15   #
appealnow Loc: Dallas, Texas
 
I disagree. The reason I often ask for the camera as well as the lens is to know if it's FF or cropped so I can better figure the lens.

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Jan 7, 2019 18:54:54   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
appealnow wrote:
I disagree. The reason I often ask for the camera as well as the lens is to know if it's FF or cropped so I can better figure the lens.


I sometimes shoot with an 800mm F/5.6. When it gets darker I switch to a 400mm F/2.8, like these from a couple of days ago.

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-572214-1.html

I had to crop the heck out of these, which would not have been as severe with the 800mm.

To be truly helpful, without being misleading, every image posted would have to be accompanied by a page of text. Somehow that doesn't seem to make sense.

It would make sense if I was asking for help with an image for me to provide as much information as possible. The onus should be on the person asking for help.

That's not to say that if someone wants to know about a specific image they shouldn't ask.

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Jan 7, 2019 19:02:15   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
burkphoto wrote:
Some of us read the terms of use and decided on day one to post images sparsely or not at all...

90% of my life’s photos belong to former employers. It’s considered proprietary and confidential training imagery. I’m sure there are others here who tread just as carefully around potential legal issues.


...but surely not all pictures taken by pros are tied up that way. I have taken pictures specifically to demonstrate a point I'm trying to make. I guess if someone is serious about making a point most of us probably have a camera close by.

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Jan 7, 2019 19:07:44   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
gessman wrote:
...but surely not all pictures taken by pros are tied up that way. I have taken pictures specifically to demonstrate a point I'm trying to make. I guess if someone is serious about making a point most of us probably have a camera close by.

Anyone can reject the TOS for the site, although overall, the idea didn't meet the sniff test ...

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Jan 7, 2019 19:08:03   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
JimBart wrote:
How do you get the exit data on this site


Admin announced some time ago that all images not earmarked to be downloaded would be resized to conform with the 600 pixels wide rule and the exif data would be stripped from all images so if that hasn't been rescinded, only the images that can be downloaded will let you see the exif data.

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Jan 7, 2019 19:16:09   #
gessman Loc: Colorado
 
Bill_de wrote:
I'll bet there are more pictures in the other 10% than most take in a lifetime.

If someone doesn't want to share their photos it's fine to say, I don't want to show my pictures.

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We have a photographer here who shoots mostly BIF and claims a 98% keeper rate. I have no reason to doubt him. He has never posted any pictures so nobody know what criteria he set for 'Keeper". I had a friend who died a few months ago, since going digital had a 100% keeper rate. When a card got filled he threw it in a desk drawer and put a brand new one in.

And, just as nobody is forced to show pictures, same goes for shooting data. At least those who show pictures go half way.

But there are a few here who never post a picture but add more to the community than those of us who do. So in the end it sort of balances out.


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I'll bet there are more pictures in the other 10% ... (show quote)


You're sure right with your last paragraph but the words often just add to the confusion of new members just starting out without an illustration of what is meant.

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Jan 7, 2019 19:26:51   #
beagle mom
 
Personally, for beginning photographers the ISO, aperature, and shutter speed would be more helpful!

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