Definitely 1. Much more visually appealing. 2 too dark
Mr palmer
Loc: Currently: Colorado, USA, Terra, Sol
I would love to see #2 without the vignette and printed towards the same values as #1. Until then #1 for me as well.
The first one. More contrast. Did you use a contrast filter?
Cany143 wrote:
Either has possibilities, but its difficult for me to get past processing problems to prefer one over the other. Haloing around the trees is a problem, but its much less a problem than the blank, white, unaddressed spaces between tree boughs that could have been burned down so they're equal in tonality to the rest of the sky. Its more apparent in the first image than the second, but --for me-- its jarring. Apart from that issue, I'll echo what Bob said above: the tonality is rather odd. My guess would be that --among other things-- both have been over-clarified.
A radical alteration of tonality is one way of abstracting a scene or a subject without altering its form. If abstraction was your goal, then that goal has been achieved.
Either has possibilities, but its difficult for me... (
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I am sending this reply to you and Bob Story. I am surprised by the detailed critique and the feeling that the image is over processed. What would you guys have said about Ansel Adams photos back in the day?
Bob Story wrote:
I'm not a fan of black and white photography, but feel both shots are relying too heavily on developing technique rather than on the beauty of the scene. I would have to choose the first shot just because it shows more but yearn to see it's color.
I am sending this reply to you and Cany143. I am surprised by the detailed critique and the feeling that the image is over processed. What would you guys have said about Ansel Adams photos back in the day?
Side by side in the OP, I liked #1 better; but when I downloaded both, #2 came alive, while #1 was a bit over the top with the contrast slider.
bertloomis wrote:
I am sending this reply to you and Bob Story. I am surprised by the detailed critique and the feeling that the image is over processed. What would you guys have said about Ansel Adams photos back in the day?
I suggest you re-read what I wrote. The critique I offered addresses specific post processing issues, either (or both) of which can be a result of an over-application of 'clarity' during processing. I also mentioned, briefly, one of the ways the issue could be resolved, and one of the ways the overall images might be assessed.
What would I have said about Adams' photos back in the day? Pretty much the same as I said back then, and much the same as I'd say today: his images are masterpieces of pre-visualization and photographic execution. And that doesn't even
begin to describe my appreciation for the aesthetic qualities of his work. I expect a
lot of us Zone System users would say something like that.
How was this done? What kind of editing?
bertloomis wrote:
I am sending this reply to you and Cany143. I am surprised by the detailed critique and the feeling that the image is over processed. What would you guys have said about Ansel Adams photos back in the day?
Adams would have probably spent 3 weeks or longer getting the image right. The critique you have received is perfectly correct. A few tugs on some sliders without reviewing the details of an image carefully can never be compared with the work of Adams.
No. 1 definitely. The fence gives it perspective and gives it scale.
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