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Aug 28, 2018 07:56:16   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
russraman wrote:
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Discussion (twice) as well as watched or read user reviews on numerous web sites, but I still don’t understand why I should want or need this new mirrorless camera. I currently own a Nikon D810 and two Nikon Df’s along with a variety of AI-S, D, G and E lenses. What are the compelling reasons why I should add this camera to my current Nikon product collection or replace one of my existing cameras? And if for some reason I need a mirrorless camera, wouldn’t I be better off buying a Fujifilm XT2 with a Nikon F mount converter?
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Dis... (show quote)


It's certainly ok to not want or need something but to not understand your own wants or needs makes you sound like a pretty confused person.

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Aug 28, 2018 07:58:39   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
tenor57 wrote:
One thing I do not understand with this latest Mirrorless craze: why would you want the sensor immediately exposed to the possibility of attracting dust when taking off the lens?


Actually the flapping DSLR mirror whips the dust around inside the mirror box so mirrorless might actually require less cleaning but in either case the sonic cleaner will remove almost all dust - in stubborn cases the sensor might require manual cleaning but be careful here have a pro do it. In this case mirrorless would be easier to clean for obvious reasons. In either case minimize the time the sensor/mirrorbox is exposed with the lens off. Another tip face the camera down when changing lenses.

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Aug 28, 2018 08:11:41   #
ggenova64
 
Lots of it!

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Aug 28, 2018 08:13:19   #
johneccles Loc: Leyland UK
 
I have used mirrorless cameras for many years and have never got dust on the sensor. I always choose a sheltered spot and change lenses quickly.

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Aug 28, 2018 08:31:10   #
Skiextreme2 Loc: Northwest MA
 
russraman wrote:
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Discussion (twice) as well as watched or read user reviews on numerous web sites, but I still don’t understand why I should want or need this new mirrorless camera. I currently own a Nikon D810 and two Nikon Df’s along with a variety of AI-S, D, G and E lenses. What are the compelling reasons why I should add this camera to my current Nikon product collection or replace one of my existing cameras? And if for some reason I need a mirrorless camera, wouldn’t I be better off buying a Fujifilm XT2 with a Nikon F mount converter?
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Dis... (show quote)


If you look at 5-10 different reviews on youtube, you'll probably find a lot of reasons you don't want a Z6 or Z7 (unless you do landscapes or portraits only).

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Aug 28, 2018 08:34:17   #
dragonfist Loc: Stafford, N.Y.
 
Back in the day when car models changed radicaly every year there were those that bought the new model every year.Their last years model got them from point A to point B just fine but it no longer had the WOW factor with the neighbors.If you can afford to and the adulation ownersip has is worth it why not?

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Aug 28, 2018 08:40:58   #
Festus Loc: North Dakota
 
You are kidding right?!

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Aug 28, 2018 09:34:55   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
I don’t want a Z camera right now I am happy with my D810 & D500

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Aug 28, 2018 09:34:55   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Not all apply:

* Work absolutely silently in a dark theatre, with no light from a rear screen to disturb patrons behind you. (EVF plus electronic shutter = stealth mode!)
Can be done with a DSLR with mirror up.
* Do vibration-free macro work at long shutter speeds with remote control via WiFi and a smartphone app. (mirrorless design plus electronic shutter + WiFi = no vibration!)
Can be done with a DSLR with mirror up.
* Do nature photography silently and remotely (mirrorless design plus electronic shutter + WiFi = remote control of a silent camera!)
Can be done with a DSLR with mirror up.
* NEVER have to "fine tune a lens" to your camera bodies' focusing systems. (Focus sensing happens in the imaging sensor of a mirrorless, so if it's in focus in the EVF or OLED LCD, it's in focus!)
You still might with 3rd party lenses like Sigma 150-600mm
* Clean your sensor much less often. (No mirror means no mirror to fan flying droplets of lubricants, or metal shavings, or foam particles from the mirror dampener...)
Actually clean the sensor more no mirror to stop pollen or other objects reaching the sensor



burkphoto wrote:
Mirrorless cameras have special applications that dSLRs can't handle. Unless you need them for those special applications, you don't need them:

* Work absolutely silently in a dark theatre, with no light from a rear screen to disturb patrons behind you. (EVF plus electronic shutter = stealth mode!)
* Do vibration-free macro work at long shutter speeds with remote control via WiFi and a smartphone app. (mirrorless design plus electronic shutter + WiFi = no vibration!)
* Do nature photography silently and remotely (mirrorless design plus electronic shutter + WiFi = remote control of a silent camera!)
* NEVER have to "fine tune a lens" to your camera bodies' focusing systems. (Focus sensing happens in the imaging sensor of a mirrorless, so if it's in focus in the EVF or OLED LCD, it's in focus!)
* Clean your sensor much less often. (No mirror means no mirror to fan flying droplets of lubricants, or metal shavings, or foam particles from the mirror dampener...)
* Record top notch video AND stills with the same camera. (While you can record video with a dSLR, the EVF allows much greater flexibility.)
* Use 4K or 6K still capture modes to work at high frame rates (30-60 frames per second STILLS)

There are many more reasons we mirrorless users love them. Specific brands do different things differently, so to really get a sense of what they do, you have to read the reviews and study the camera manuals (all online at manufacturer web sites).

I can tell you that the Nikon mirrorless will likely adapt F-mount lenses better than any adapter for Fujifilm cameras. We shall see. They'll need that adapter, because they don't plan to release many lenses in the first few years. (Which comes first, the bodies, or the lenses? They can't sell one without the others!)

The vast majority of dSLR owners should keep their gear for now. Wait until the over-eager GAS hogs take the slings and arrows of new technology in the back, and Nikon fixes a few things. If you need a mirrorless next week, go rent a Sony or Olympus or Panasonic or Fujifilm camera. All four have reasonably mature systems. They're all quite different, but they are all cameras.
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Aug 28, 2018 10:01:24   #
Largobob
 
tenor57 wrote:
One thing I do not understand with this latest Mirrorless craze: why would you want the sensor immediately exposed to the possibility of attracting dust when taking off the lens?


Or physical damage....Especially being so close to the rear lens element.

Good point!

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Aug 28, 2018 10:03:07   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
russraman wrote:
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Discussion (twice) as well as watched or read user reviews on numerous web sites, but I still don’t understand why I should want or need this new mirrorless camera.


The fact that you say you don't understand but still watch the videos more than once and take the time to write about it is telling. Obviously you want it, whether you need it or not. Otherwise you would be out taking pictures right now with the camera you own and love.

Go ahead and put your name on the preorder list. Once you do that you can worry about understanding and decide if you want to accept the order when they are available.

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Aug 28, 2018 10:03:29   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Largobob wrote:
Or physical damage....Especially being so close to the rear lens element.

Good point!


Oh yes, and there have been so many problems related to this. While we're at it why would anyone want an automobile? People get killed driving those things!

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Aug 28, 2018 10:07:00   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
I'll look at them whenever they are finally available to the masses.

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Aug 28, 2018 10:08:43   #
Brianhward
 
The only reason I can see is size and weight. It takes up less room in your carry-on baggage. I have a panasonic lumix and my regular camera is a canon 80D.
The big difference I noticed was that on the Lumix some of the buttons serve double duty and I found that annoying. I recently took my Lumix to a reunion I attended. The pictures I took were fine and the light weight was convenient. However, due to the spur of the moment situations, I found my Iphone worked fine in most situations. Further, the organization hired a photographer who roamed the event taking pictures that you could purchase at a very reasonable price. He must have donated his time.
To make a long story short. You don’t need one. If you are taking serious photos not snap shots than you will probably want to stay with your main camera. Cell phone camera’s are catching up fast. They still can’t deal with HDR situations. In my opinion, mirror-less camera’s are a temporary stopping point on the way to ever better cell phone camera’s.

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Aug 28, 2018 10:15:29   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
russraman wrote:
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Discussion (twice) as well as watched or read user reviews on numerous web sites, but I still don’t understand why I should want or need this new mirrorless camera. I currently own a Nikon D810 and two Nikon Df’s along with a variety of AI-S, D, G and E lenses. What are the compelling reasons why I should add this camera to my current Nikon product collection or replace one of my existing cameras? And if for some reason I need a mirrorless camera, wouldn’t I be better off buying a Fujifilm XT2 with a Nikon F mount converter?
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Dis... (show quote)


You are asking the the big question that nobody can really answer. Only the people that need a super light camera can tell you that they NEED one for that reason. But I watched an evaluation of the new Nikon ML cameras for use as a wildlife camera and the pros and cons. There were zero pros. (just as I predicted) There were all negative things to say about the new Z series camera for wildlife. In fact, in this video he would add some comments about portraits, or landscape photography using this Z series camera and there wasn't a whole lot to he had to say about them in this regard either.

Basically, if you want a lighter, smaller camera for use on holiday, or if you only do landscapes or portraits and you aren't a pro, then they are nice cameras. But the Z7 didn't even come close compared to a D850 in performance or in features. It falls way short. About all it is is a huge sensor in a small package that can't compete with the big boys.

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