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Aug 28, 2018 03:00:59   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Everybody is focused on the mirrorless body but it is the Z lens mount that is the big deal. “Camera bodies come and go but find a lens you love and keep it forever.”

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Aug 28, 2018 05:02:48   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
russraman wrote:
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Discussion (twice) as well as watched or read user reviews on numerous web sites, but I still don’t understand why I should want or need this new mirrorless camera. I currently own a Nikon D810 and two Nikon Df’s along with a variety of AI-S, D, G and E lenses. What are the compelling reasons why I should add this camera to my current Nikon product collection or replace one of my existing cameras? And if for some reason I need a mirrorless camera, wouldn’t I be better off buying a Fujifilm XT2 with a Nikon F mount converter?
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Dis... (show quote)

Maybe they’ll come out with a Zdf!!!
SS

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Aug 28, 2018 05:43:08   #
johneccles Loc: Leyland UK
 
russraman wrote:
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Discussion (twice) as well as watched or read user reviews on numerous web sites, but I still don’t understand why I should want or need this new mirrorless camera. I currently own a Nikon D810 and two Nikon Df’s along with a variety of AI-S, D, G and E lenses. What are the compelling reasons why I should add this camera to my current Nikon product collection or replace one of my existing cameras? And if for some reason I need a mirrorless camera, wouldn’t I be better off buying a Fujifilm XT2 with a Nikon F mount converter?
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Dis... (show quote)


You don't! go for an M43 well-proven camera such as Panasonic or Olympus.

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Aug 28, 2018 05:59:26   #
MauiMoto Loc: Hawaii
 
I really like the idea that all of my fast primes will have vr, since the z has ibis, but I can wait a few more years .

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Aug 28, 2018 06:32:30   #
BuckeyeBilly Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
 
russraman wrote:
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Discussion (twice) as well as watched or read user reviews on numerous web sites, but I still don’t understand why I should want or need this new mirrorless camera. I currently own a Nikon D810 and two Nikon Df’s along with a variety of AI-S, D, G and E lenses. What are the compelling reasons why I should add this camera to my current Nikon product collection or replace one of my existing cameras? And if for some reason I need a mirrorless camera, wouldn’t I be better off buying a Fujifilm XT2 with a Nikon F mount converter?
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Dis... (show quote)


You really need to ask for information in a better manner. The way you worded your question makes me wonder why, at some point in time, you were smart enough to evaluate and then buy your D810 and DF's. We Hoggers really didn't need to know what you currently have. The only question you needed to ask, if anything at all, is "What are your thoughts on the new "Z"? As it is, the answers you got the most were a litany of ones telling that you really don't "need" anything as it relates to cameras. If your bottom line question is, do I really want a mirrorless camera, then make up your own mind and rent one of the highly regarded ones out in the market to see if you like this form of photography. Having a "Z" is irrelevant at this point. No one here on UHH has the "Z" yet so you're only getting opinions, not real world experiences. Come on, use your own evaluative process about this in the same way you reached a conclusion about your other Nikons.

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Aug 28, 2018 06:39:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
russraman wrote:
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Discussion (twice) as well as watched or read user reviews on numerous web sites, but I still don’t understand why I should want or need this new mirrorless camera. I currently own a Nikon D810 and two Nikon Df’s along with a variety of AI-S, D, G and E lenses. What are the compelling reasons why I should add this camera to my current Nikon product collection or replace one of my existing cameras? And if for some reason I need a mirrorless camera, wouldn’t I be better off buying a Fujifilm XT2 with a Nikon F mount converter?
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Dis... (show quote)


If you've been looking for a new camera to buy, the Z would fill that need. It's one more offering in Nikon's line, not a world-changing product.

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Aug 28, 2018 06:40:20   #
Largobob
 
russraman wrote:
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Discussion (twice) as well as watched or read user reviews on numerous web sites, but I still don’t understand why I should want or need this new mirrorless camera. I currently own a Nikon D810 and two Nikon Df’s along with a variety of AI-S, D, G and E lenses. What are the compelling reasons why I should add this camera to my current Nikon product collection or replace one of my existing cameras? And if for some reason I need a mirrorless camera, wouldn’t I be better off buying a Fujifilm XT2 with a Nikon F mount converter?
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Dis... (show quote)


A better question might be, "Since I already own some very outstanding cameras (D810 and Df's), why do I need ANY mirrorless camera?

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Aug 28, 2018 06:57:01   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
zzzynick wrote:
I am with you. Why?
I don't know.
I have 3 Canon older 1D and 1Ds bodies, that take stunning pictures.
Add 5 L lenses to that. And a couple of Tamron G2's.
Now I am supposed to sell all of this for pennies on a dollar, to get the newest, coolest camera ever made?{until next years newest, coolest model}
I don't think so. I will keep what I have.
I will bet American money, that if you took the same shot with the Z and my camera. You wouldn't be able to tell them apart.


You are both right and wrong! First you are correct in that YOU are already invested in Canon. Second, you are happy with and comfortable with your cameras and lenses.. No Reason to change. So, NO!!! you are not supposed to nor should you change. However you are wrong, in that, IF you were unhappy with your setup and wanted to change brands and types, and were interested in a completely different setup, the Z cameras would be WORTH A LOOK. You are not in the market so it is worthless. Personally, I have Nikon Gear. I have a D7000, D7100 and D610. My glass is all Nikon (and for the most part all FX lenses). If I was in the market to move to a mirrorless, then it MIGHT be worth a look because I could move to mirrorless and not have to "reinvest" in lenses. If I had any other brand of camera and was looking to change to a brand that gave me the ability to use a wide inventory of lenses without waiting, then I would have to give a look at the Z and see how it fit my needs. Nikon is targeting those customers plus newbies getting into cameras. As you may have noticed, MOST serious photographers have considerably more money tied up in glass (lenses) than they do in camera bodies. This tends to cause them to pick a brand and stay with it. In this case, Nikon's entry into mirrorless gives customers that do NOT currently have a large lens inventory, and those just entering the market, something to look at. Nikon's initial entry into mirrorless is and should not be considered their final try. It is an ENTRY (in this case 2 entries at 2 different price points. IT is ALSO their first attempt in this market. If the entry meets whatever targets that Nikon is looking for (and I'm pretty sure that engineers at corporate are already working on them), Nikon will introduce follow-on models with different, more, and better features. Look at the DSLR.. originally, NONE of the camera manufacturers were making full frame... WHY? because the technology (and experience) to build that size sensor wasn't there yet. Also, The market wasn't ready to move from DX to FX .. remember, digital at that time was mainly point and shoot (and very expensive for what you got, and really low resolution) and not suitable for serious photographers (amateur and pro) to invest in. Look at the Nikon One. It was a tweener between point and shoot and DSLR.. It was a decent "entry level" camera system but, could you really imagine a photographer that was being paid big money for a photoshoot (say a wedding) showing up with a Nikon One and 2 lenses? (I saw a couple of those while I worked at Nikon, and the (wannabe) photographer was NOT pleased with the reception that she got from "potential" clients. One even told her that if she (the client) had known that she intended to shoot the wedding with a point and shoot, they would have gone elsewhere. (now this doesn't even touch the secondary point that here photos really would have had to improve to be considered amateurish... they were really bad) but that was the photographer and not the point. In this case, all that we have seen of the camera is stuff from advertising, etc. It hasn't even been released to the public yet. Everyone is basing investment decisions on me too. remarks from people that have seen general ideas and concepts.. Lets wait and see. Give the camera a chance to be on the market and probably be revised in the next year or too. UNLESS I was just getting into photography now.. and wasn't currently invested in bodies or lenses... I would at least look.. No, I probably wouldn't purchase it but I might wait to invest in anything else until the smoke cleared. AND, If I was seriously interested and needed to buy now, I might go with an FX D6XX or something so that I could move to the Z when it was ready. Now is the time for serious photographers to stop and say, "well, its an interesting concept and it is Nikon... and I already have Nikon lenses... so lets wait and see". If I had Canon, I would seriously wait (and I'm personally not a Canon fan... though I respect them) and see what and how Canon reacts.. and react they will. And the other camera makers, that are already in, are stopping to evaluate where Nikon and Canon are going to land in this market. If I were one of the Non-Canon/Nikon camera makers, I wouldn't be scared but I WOULD be warry. It's like a very large gorilla entering a room.. you don't know if the gorilla is mean, or not mean, it may be tame.. but you DO keep your eye on it.

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Aug 28, 2018 07:00:10   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
russraman wrote:
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Discussion (twice) as well as watched or read user reviews on numerous web sites, but I still don’t understand why I should want or need this new mirrorless camera. I currently own a Nikon D810 and two Nikon Df’s along with a variety of AI-S, D, G and E lenses. What are the compelling reasons why I should add this camera to my current Nikon product collection or replace one of my existing cameras? And if for some reason I need a mirrorless camera, wouldn’t I be better off buying a Fujifilm XT2 with a Nikon F mount converter?
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Dis... (show quote)


It's purely a want, as with most enthusiast photography (hobby). I think most Nikon pros will avoid these cameras, except to try one out of curiosity or for casual personal photography. Mirrorless cameras chief benefit is low or no noise and vibration - so it might be attractive to journalists, but other pros such as wedding photographers might shun it because of the single slot issue.

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Aug 28, 2018 07:00:37   #
Bob Smith Loc: Banjarmasin
 
Things are getting so close it seems like we are splitting hairs with most things now. I have an Fuji XT2 and won't change it because it does everything I want. The things I like most about it compared to my old Nikon DSLR. The viewfinder WYSIWYG with no discernible lag. The external controls which save going into menu's on the screen and a joystick which is just a joy to use. But stick with what you've got, the best equipment you have is your eye.

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Aug 28, 2018 07:21:55   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
russraman wrote:
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Discussion (twice) as well as watched or read user reviews on numerous web sites, but I still don’t understand why I should want or need this new mirrorless camera. I currently own a Nikon D810 and two Nikon Df’s along with a variety of AI-S, D, G and E lenses. What are the compelling reasons why I should add this camera to my current Nikon product collection or replace one of my existing cameras? And if for some reason I need a mirrorless camera, wouldn’t I be better off buying a Fujifilm XT2 with a Nikon F mount converter?
I watched the online Nikon Z6/7 Hands-on Panel Dis... (show quote)


Only YOU can make that decision. It is only up to you my friend. Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.

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Aug 28, 2018 07:22:44   #
Glenn Harve
 
.....so that you can stop thinking about how much you want it???

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Aug 28, 2018 07:42:25   #
Goober Loc: Southeastern PA
 
If you have to ask why you need it, you don't!

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Aug 28, 2018 07:42:52   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
My take on this, if you are happy with what you have do not buy the new camera. The videos or opinions you have heard or read are not from owners but from photographers Nikon has given a pre-production camera to test. Many have complained of its AF not to a par with AF in dSLR cameras.
Remember this is a new, expensive camera along with very expensive lenses. Nobody knows yet very much about its performance because what we have seen till now is a pre-production model.
My advise, stay with what you have.

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Aug 28, 2018 07:47:50   #
tenor57
 
One thing I do not understand with this latest Mirrorless craze: why would you want the sensor immediately exposed to the possibility of attracting dust when taking off the lens?

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