But I do want to understand and "know the exposure triangle"? That is Shutter Speed, Aperture (aka F-stop) and ISO! How do we get their?
Thank you very much Linda.
I have a sister named Linda who pass away a few years ago. You have her characteristics!
Gino
So, let me ask a question. Do the people who profess “manual” is the ONLY way also refuse to make use of the modern conveniences of digital watches, television remotes and automatic transmission on a car? IMHO there is a time and place for everything.
Yeah, that's a mystery to me, too.
Linda From Maine wrote:
The non-controversial topics don't seem to draw much attention. Aren't we due for another "SOOC is the only true photography" topic?
"Put a SOOC in it" moment?
I think that analog photography is still light years ahead of digital. (Just as analog audio is of digital audio.) However, I have not won the big lottery to fund the necessary equipment needed for the analog reproduction. I will use any equipment available to me to get what I find satisfactory for the time being.
Let's not forget the photography by remotes, such as drones and robots. That's mainly SOOC for many. (Did someone say "I-phones"?).
Actually, this is one area that the ends "justify" the means, unlike life. The concept comes first. But how does one choose the means without some comprehension of operational results of the variety of means? Go "manual", of course. Many painters still design their brushes and colors to bring about the image in their eye. Photography is no different. We *graph* the photo.
Still waiting for digital cameras from Japan to go "Crick!"
buckwheat wrote:
Don't get me wrong! When I started this hobby in earnest in the early '60s, manual was all there was. Then in school we used view cameras, and there aint no automatic, there. As technology progressed, the automatic functions of cameras have become almost freakishly intelligent. I spent thousands of dollars on cameras, all with automatic features which rival the skills (exposure and focus) which I had as a photojournalist in Southeast Asia with my trusty Nikon. I shot so much I could judge light, get sharp focus, and get the shot as quickly as my camera can now. Obviously I am much older now, but my goal is still to get the shot. But I am gratefully happy to utilize the work and inventions of all the engineers who have made it possible for me to take the picture, and if I don't like what shows up on my screen, I can change it.
That being said, any newcomer who doesn't know the exposure triangle, is not a picture maker, but merely a picture taker.
Now, who has the popcorn?
Don't get me wrong! When I started this hobby in ... (
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I see a troll and the many who fall for it.
Who remembers getting up and changing the channel? Why the TV's always flickered horizontally?
I recently took a trip to Zion National Park armed with top of the line Canon equipment and decades of experience. I took hundreds of photographs with good, not great results. Why just good? Because conditions at the park were just average. No big puffy clouds, no ominous fog rolling into the valley, just pail weather and blue/gray skies. In response to this topic I could have shot virtually everything in auto-exposure mode and got the same results. Auto exposure just plays the odds. In normal lighting conditions you will get excellent results every time. But "normal" light will give you nothing but "normal" photographs. The worlds greatest pictures are invariably taken in conditions incompatible with the simple auto-exposure functions of your camera. They require a calculated determination as to how the image will render in it's final state of view. There are times when auto exposure is convenient and appropriate, such as in some sports or wildlife photography situations when conditions change rapidly, but for those of us wanting more from our craft manual exposure and the knowledge to adjust it properly is essential to advanced imagery. See a few images from Zion. All could have been taken in auto mode with the same results.
Ha, ha. And not just here but elsewhere, too: "Those here with the loudest voices and egos will come across as the Great Truth tellers."
For my part, I prefer the voice of experience, all the way from the nuts and bolts of photography to the smooth and polished view of doing it.
Linda From Maine wrote:
With several new topics already today on this subject, obviously a nerve was touched, even without the popcorn
Photo forums are not the real world. Those here with the loudest voices and egos will come across as the Great Truth tellers. If you carefully read what several of our
pro photographers wrote, you will see that they concur "one size does NOT fit all."
Shot manual for 20yrs before digital so I still use it because of control but AP ans SP has its place.
My friend from California said he knew a "true professional" who bought a Canon D1x MKIII, prime lenses only, and shot only manual. Clients were high-dollar Hollywood stars. Since the rich paid so much, the cost of the camera and lenses was of no consequence. Great for that photographer. But, IMHO, if you buy a tool, best to learn and use all of its functions.
I have always thought that a manual camera, in my case a Canon F1, was a good way to learn photography and I found film forced you to consider what you were about to photograph since you paid for each shot. The exposure triangle became instinctual, one click here meant an opposite click there. Fast forward a dozen or so years and I find myself photographing wildlife with a bazooka of a lens, composing an image of a reluctant, as well as moving, subject in a couple of seconds. I let the camera do the work of figuring out the exposure as I compose the picture, knowing that I can quickly override its choices, with a very good chance of obtaining the desired result, if deemed necessary. The lessons learned from my film days are always with me and in my mind's eye, trained over the course of shooting hundreds of rolls of film, I can visualize the results.
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Actually, I use a variety of modes, depending on what I am shooting. mastering Manual is very fulfilling, since you learn how the machine works and configure it to your advantage.
I shot a 1 hr time lapse 2 weeks ago in Program mode, because I wanted the exposure to change as the sun set.
Whatever works, and WFT is the big deal?
CHG_CANON wrote:
You're not keeping up, the kids on campus this semester are saying: GIRITC = Get it right in the camera
All these new acronyms! By the way WTF does WFT mean?
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