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Aug 17, 2018 00:28:05   #
Haydon
 
graybeard wrote:
How do you get your keyboard to make those overstroke characters you have there??


Character Map in Windows

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Aug 17, 2018 01:20:52   #
graybeard
 
Haydon wrote:
Character Map in Windows


OK I will look into it. I want the German dot over the O giving it the errr sound. Thought you needed a whole new keyboard. Thanks

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Aug 17, 2018 01:54:35   #
Katydid Loc: Davis, CA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
With several new topics already today on this subject, obviously a nerve was touched, even without the popcorn

Photo forums are not the real world. Those here with the loudest voices and egos will come across as the Great Truth tellers. If you carefully read what several of our pro photographers wrote, you will see that they concur "one size does NOT fit all."


It makes alot of sense to me, Linda!

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Aug 17, 2018 04:56:59   #
HT
 
Manual mode is almost a religion here at the Hog.

But manual mode on a mirrorless camera? Now THATS a religious experience!

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Aug 17, 2018 05:18:30   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
When you throw a rock at a pack of dogs (I never have) the one you hit barks the loudest.
buckwheat wrote:
Don't get me wrong! When I started this hobby in earnest in the early '60s, manual was all there was. Then in school we used view cameras, and there aint no automatic, there. As technology progressed, the automatic functions of cameras have become almost freakishly intelligent. I spent thousands of dollars on cameras, all with automatic features which rival the skills (exposure and focus) which I had as a photojournalist in Southeast Asia with my trusty Nikon. I shot so much I could judge light, get sharp focus, and get the shot as quickly as my camera can now. Obviously I am much older now, but my goal is still to get the shot. But I am gratefully happy to utilize the work and inventions of all the engineers who have made it possible for me to take the picture, and if I don't like what shows up on my screen, I can change it.

That being said, any newcomer who doesn't know the exposure triangle, is not a picture maker, but merely a picture taker.

Now, who has the popcorn?
Don't get me wrong! When I started this hobby in ... (show quote)



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Aug 17, 2018 05:22:06   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
"WFT"???
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Actually, I use a variety of modes, depending on what I am shooting. mastering Manual is very fulfilling, since you learn how the machine works and configure it to your advantage.
I shot a 1 hr time lapse 2 weeks ago in Program mode, because I wanted the exposure to change as the sun set.

Whatever works, and WFT is the big deal?



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Aug 17, 2018 05:23:37   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
That's it, Linda, keep throwing those rocks, LOL.
Linda From Maine wrote:
The non-controversial topics don't seem to draw much attention. Aren't we due for another "SOOC is the only true photography" topic?

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Aug 17, 2018 05:48:30   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
buckwheat wrote:
Don't get me wrong! When I started this hobby in earnest in the early '60s, manual was all there was. Then in school we used view cameras, and there aint no automatic, there. As technology progressed, the automatic functions of cameras have become almost freakishly intelligent. I spent thousands of dollars on cameras, all with automatic features which rival the skills (exposure and focus) which I had as a photojournalist in Southeast Asia with my trusty Nikon. I shot so much I could judge light, get sharp focus, and get the shot as quickly as my camera can now. Obviously I am much older now, but my goal is still to get the shot. But I am gratefully happy to utilize the work and inventions of all the engineers who have made it possible for me to take the picture, and if I don't like what shows up on my screen, I can change it.

That being said, any newcomer who doesn't know the exposure triangle, is not a picture maker, but merely a picture taker.

Now, who has the popcorn?
Don't get me wrong! When I started this hobby in ... (show quote)


I quite agree. I might even go further for many to camera user and snap-shot taker vs photographer and artist. I too have used everything (film) from 35mm rangefinders to 35mm SLR to 6x6cm to 6x7cm to 4x5" to 8x10". At one point I got to where I would leave the batteries out and just "feel" the correct exposure. These days I actually shoot mostly on Aperture Priority (then most Manual) but I keep an eye on the shutter speeds the camera is choosing. This habit of using Av actually goes back to when I got my "work horse" Pentax K2 DMD body. I found that metering and exposure Av, M, and using a Gossen Luna-Pro Meter all gave agreeing exposures anyway when used properly.

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Aug 17, 2018 05:50:36   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Because any other mode would not facilitate my placing the Zonal values where I needed them to make this photograph.
--Bob


nice image

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Aug 17, 2018 06:06:47   #
Hammer Loc: London UK
 
rmalarz wrote:
Because any other mode would not facilitate my placing the Zonal values where I needed them to make this photograph.
--Bob


Now thats what I call a photo . Please do not post any more like this , make me think about selling my gear.

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Aug 17, 2018 06:45:36   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
Went through every comment on this thread and still don't know what folks are talking about. Forget the popcorn. Give me coffee.

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Aug 17, 2018 06:57:16   #
leftyD500 Loc: Ocala, Florida
 
buckwheat wrote:
Don't get me wrong! When I started this hobby in earnest in the early '60s, manual was all there was. Then in school we used view cameras, and there aint no automatic, there. As technology progressed, the automatic functions of cameras have become almost freakishly intelligent. I spent thousands of dollars on cameras, all with automatic features which rival the skills (exposure and focus) which I had as a photojournalist in Southeast Asia with my trusty Nikon. I shot so much I could judge light, get sharp focus, and get the shot as quickly as my camera can now. Obviously I am much older now, but my goal is still to get the shot. But I am gratefully happy to utilize the work and inventions of all the engineers who have made it possible for me to take the picture, and if I don't like what shows up on my screen, I can change it.

That being said, any newcomer who doesn't know the exposure triangle, is not a picture maker, but merely a picture taker.

Now, who has the popcorn?
Don't get me wrong! When I started this hobby in ... (show quote)


This is my personal opinion, but I feel "photographers" preach manual mode to prove they are "photographers." Me, I shoot semi-manual. I like to set my shutter speed and aperture, but almost always keep iso on auto. So, I confess, I am not a purist.

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Aug 17, 2018 07:07:28   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Auto modes could be very convenient depending on the subject we are photographing. Many photographers use Aperture Priority and Shutter Priority very often and I am one of them.
I use Manual when I have all of the time of this world to photograph a still subject.

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Aug 17, 2018 07:12:34   #
AZNikon Loc: Mesa, AZ
 
What a shot-well done Bob!

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Aug 17, 2018 07:13:59   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
With several new topics already today on this subject, obviously a nerve was touched, even without the popcorn

Photo forums are not the real world. Those here with the loudest voices and egos will come across as the Great Truth tellers. If you carefully read what several of our pro photographers wrote, you will see that they concur "one size does NOT fit all."


Makes me feel good when I get it right and the shot looks good. Here is an image I took in a hurry. Came home and saw this bird in my front yard eating a squirrel. I parked, ran in through the garage door, grabbed my D500, slapped my 200-500 lens on my camera. Walked out the front door and took the shot. It all happened very fast.



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