papakatz45 wrote:
You are correct if they can make bail but if they cannot make bail then they stay in jail and their children are taken away from them. People who try to enter this country illegally are not innocent. They have broken the law. But for a moment lets assume your position if valid. Do you believe people who come here illegally should be given the same opportunity as someone who comes here legally? We do have a process for legal immigration. Thousands of people immigrate to this country legally each year. And that is a great thing. But why should "illegals" be given the same opportunity? Why can't they follow the legal process? Please explain if you can. Should we have open borders and let anyone who desires come in our country do so without any checks? Yes, there is great tragedy in the world but I do not believe we should have an open-door policy to fix the evils in the world. The governments of the countries from where illegals come from have the responsibilities to take care of their citizens, not the USA.
I do understand perfectly. You want to save the world, but at what cost? Please answer if you can, but I am done now.
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Sorry, you don’t understand. Asylum is a legitimate condition, enforced by national and international law. As long as they seek asylum, they aren’t illegals. They. Are. Legal.
No one is advocating Open Borders. Asylum
is a legal process.
And the simple fact is that we can’t keep people out. We have a test case: Drugs. The best estimates are that we stop approximately 10% of the drugs coming into this country. Ten Per Cent! We have agents on both sides of the borders, radar, military help—we can’t stop the drugs, never have stopped the drugs, have no prospect of Ever stopping the drugs!
We can’t build a system drugs can’t go over, under or around! Never have...never will. Reality speaks.
Cubans get here in open boats—sometimes not even boats!—over 90 miles of open water, in the face of radar and military surveillance—still they get here.
Remember Chuck Yeager, the first man to fly faster than sound?
“Stationed in the United Kingdom at RAF Leiston, Yeager flew P-51 Mustangs in combat with the 363d Fighter Squadron. He named his aircraft Glamorous Glen after his girlfriend, Glennis Faye Dickhouse, who became his wife in February 1945. Yeager had gained one victory before he was shot down over France in his first aircraft on March 5, 1944 during his eighth mission. He escaped to Spain on March 30 with the help of the Maquis (French Resistance) and returned to England on May 15, 1944. ((This from Wikipedia.))
Well, how did he escape. The Maquis walked him into Spain, and when they came to the Nazi checkpoint at the border,
they walked around it! If the Nazis couldn’t enforce thier borders in wartime—the Nazis!—it simply can’t be done.
And, before you mention any wall, please read this:
“Drug smugglers trying to tap into the United States’ highly profitable market have developed all kinds of secretive routes to deliver their illicit goods. One tactic is to go underground.
At the U.S.-Mexico border, tunnels are a popular means of transporting illegal marijuana – a bulky drug whose distinctive odor makes it hard to get past drug-sniffing dogs and other security at border checkpoints and airports.
Since 1990, more than 220 tunnels have been discovered there, including 60 in the area overseen by the U.S. Border Patrol’s San Diego office.”https://www.voanews.com/a/tunnels-at-us-mexico-border-show-smugglers-deep-commitment/3869064.html