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Jul 15, 2018 10:17:53   #
Stephan G
 
tomcat wrote:
What a complete moron you are! If the country had been stupid enough to elect Hillary we would have had 4 more years of a "do nothing" presidency. She represents nothing more than a paper tiger who wants to be queen of the US similar to the Queen of England. All that your leftist gov't has done is to drive us further and further into an open border country that would become more Muslim everyday. Our Muslim president did everything that he could to infiltrate gov't offices with Muslims. As far as learning Russian, I'll take the Russkies anyway over the Muslims. At least the Russians are civilized whereas the Muslims are still many centuries away from civilization. However with your thinking, your grandchildren are going to grow up under Sharia law and bowing down to face the east several times a day..... Think about the legacy that you would be leaving them with........ What a complete moron you are!
What a complete moron you are! If the country ha... (show quote)


You actually used the word "Civilized"?!

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Jul 15, 2018 10:27:50   #
beamer01 Loc: West Palm Beach
 
Taking a knee? Who of you think it is only for God or only for Sunday???? Taking a knee is the most subservient position a men can take in time of crisis. I wish someone could explain how does this disrespect the flag??? In a country that has when to war for freedom of speech and opinion. I was not aware that freedom of speech depends on your income? albeit I know it seems to depend on your race in the land of the free. But then maybe when the President calls you a "Son of a bitch" and saids it does maybe it does??? Does anyone remember why it was being done??? Because unarmed young Black men were and still are being killed by white police for any reason they can think of mostly "they felt threaten". Citizens of this country have burned, spit on and torn up the flag. So tell why does kneeling cause such a problem???? Tell me is what or why they are doing or simply because Trump saids it is????????????

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Jul 15, 2018 10:31:56   #
tomcat
 
Stephan G wrote:
I worry about the rampant self-inflicted ignorance shown by many self-described Americans..



Me too. And I especially worry about the blindness of so many people that cannot see the devastation caused by barbarian Muslim immigration. Look at what has happened to London in the past 5 years. That can be coming to America if something is not done. I surely don't want my grandkids or future generations growing up under Sharia law and having to read the Koran in school.

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Jul 15, 2018 10:40:40   #
spokie
 
Tomcat,

You’re right. The Moslems are everywhere, they’re taking over. Have you checked under your bed?

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Jul 15, 2018 10:53:11   #
tomcat
 
spokie wrote:
Tomcat,

You’re right. The Moslems are everywhere, they’re taking over. Have you checked under your bed?


Hold that thought and see if you can say that 10 years from now. They are coming

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Jul 15, 2018 11:38:32   #
spokie
 
tomcat wrote:
Hold that thought and see if you can say that 10 years from now. They are coming


We should spend that time building some bunkers...

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Jul 15, 2018 11:52:20   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
exakta56 wrote:
" I think it's all about to hit the fan on him soon" He has a dogged base who love his banter and excesses. He is scary but his supporters are more so and don't feel that they have an alternative.
We should be very concerned.

He’s a highly flawed man , but are Democrats who increasingly identify with radical Leftist views the answer ?
By the way , the stories of Normandy Beach , Gettysburg etc etc mean absolutely nothing to Leftists . They perceive this country as a result of Imperialism , and view its founding Fathers as racist .
What a mess this 21st Century is shaping up to be . And you think it’s all Trumps fault ? Come on , you must be a little more intelligent than that .

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Jul 15, 2018 12:01:17   #
Stephan G
 
spokie wrote:
Tomcat,

You’re right. The Moslems are everywhere, they’re taking over. Have you checked under your bed?


He might find a prayer rug.

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Jul 15, 2018 12:02:43   #
Diocletian
 
Joe Blow wrote:
Those that conflate fighting for our nation with a Sunday afternoon football game missed what we did in those jungles, beaches, seas, and forests.

Forcing others to follow a practice they disagree with insults every man and woman who died or bled for our nation.

No war was won because someone at home wore a flag pin. Wars were won because we prevailed in the end.

Jingoism has killed a lot of Americans unnecessarily.

The colors of the flag mean: "Charles Thomson, Secretary of the Continental Congress, explained the significance to Congress when he presented the seal. “The colors,” Thomson said at the time, “are those used in the flag of the United States of America. White signifies purity and innocence. Red, hardiness & valour, and Blue… signifies vigilance, perseverance & justice.”" While many have bled for, and on, our flag, the red in the flag was never to signify blood.

Yes, many veterans came home and were spit on. The vast majority weren't. The worst though were those that bought deferments for bone spurs and other trivial complaints. The one who called those held in horrendous prison camps "losers". It's funny how some people that hold this man up as a hero ignore his insults to veterans. To those wounded. To those who didn't come home. And when some people clearly state that they disagree with the abuses of the government, they are the ones called traitors.

If you want to take a knee, go for it. I don't; I stand with my hand on my heart. But I do it from my own volition, not because I have to. If someone wants to make an issue of whether or not I stand for our anthem then it is they who has the problem.

Those who whine the loudest didn't serve.
Those that conflate fighting for our nation with a... (show quote)


Well said! Thank you.

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Jul 15, 2018 12:08:08   #
machia Loc: NJ
 
tomcat wrote:
Me too. And I especially worry about the blindness of so many people that cannot see the devastation caused by barbarian Muslim immigration. Look at what has happened to London in the past 5 years. That can be coming to America if something is not done. I surely don't want my grandkids or future generations growing up under Sharia law and having to read the Koran in school.

Somehow Leftists embrace self destruction .

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Jul 15, 2018 12:08:38   #
tomcat
 
machia wrote:
He’s a highly flawed man , but are Democrats who increasingly identify with radical Leftist views the answer ?
By the way , the stories of Normandy Beach , Gettysburg etc etc mean absolutely nothing to Leftists . They perceive this country as a result of Imperialism , and view its founding Fathers as racist .
What a mess this 21st Century is shaping up to be . And you think it’s all Trumps fault ? Come on , you must be a little more intelligent than that .


The problem is that they are not intelligent at all, but the product of a 60's society that unfortunately my generation created. It's all about a desire to re-create a European style society and government here. Kinda ironic that our English ancestors left Europe to seek a better life and a new gov't and now we WASPS are having to fight for it all over again.

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Jul 15, 2018 12:09:46   #
tomcat
 
Stephan G wrote:
He might find a prayer rug.


They have to get past my double-barrel shotgun. The left chamber is for Leftists and the right chamber is for Muslims..........

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Jul 15, 2018 12:18:29   #
Diocletian
 
traderjohn wrote:
In what manner and in what way did I say I did not value children?? I think those males that father children and do nothing to support them or are not in their lives to be an influence are the ones that do not value children. They abandon their children. They fail to support them in any way. That is left to the taxpayer.
My point is what have the NFL players done other than taking a knee?? How involved have they as a group been?? Talk is cheap. What have they lent their celebrity to that influences change in getting an education and becoming a success?
In what manner and in what way did I say I did not... (show quote)


I’m confused. Are you saying that these football players are the ones who are the males that father children and do nothing to support them? Didn’t Steve Jobs do exactly that? He abandoned his daughter for the first few years of her life....and then had the audacity to steal her away from her mother when he decided ... well, god only knows why.....according to his biography. Oh wait, was he black?

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Jul 15, 2018 12:29:42   #
Diocletian
 
tomcat wrote:
The problem is that they are not intelligent at all, but the product of a 60's society that unfortunately my generation created. It's all about a desire to re-create a European style society and government here. Kinda ironic that our English ancestors left Europe to seek a better life and a new gov't and now we WASPS are having to fight for it all over again.


Oh well that WASP statement is priceless. Xenophobia, racism and sexism all wrapped up in one! Congratulations!

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Jul 15, 2018 13:16:49   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Stephan G wrote:
Did you defend the flag or the country represented by the flag? Please consider this as an honest and serious question from another Vietnam veteran.

The US Congress never declared war on Vietnam, nor on North Korea. The US military was hamstrung by the rules set by the United Nations.

You and I, though, fought for that right of self-expression of kneeling, not to protest, but to bring attention to the wrongs going on now.

The playing of the national anthem at professional sports is degrading the service done by our military, IMO. It is used as a sales hook to get people into the stadiums. Those people standing are not doing for patriotism. They are doing it because someone said, "Please stand".
Did you defend the flag or the country represented... (show quote)


In my case, neither. I never really believed that the Viet Cong or the NVA was going to invade the US. I fought for the guys on either side of me after being sent as a 19 year old to a place I hard hardly heard of and could never have located on a map. We were issued rifles, ammunition, grenades and other sorts of mayhem producing devices and told anybody not dressed like you who are coming from 'that' direction is the enemy. Kill them.

Imagine my surprise upon first being dropped in a jungle clearing by helicopter that the "other guys" were in no way terrified of us and shot back vigorously with their Chicom supplied AK-47's. Seemed like a lot of them were aiming a couple of feet below the antenna of the AN/PRC 10 radio I had strapped to my back. We had another name for those radios, but since many ladies read posts on this site, I will not mention it.

I do agree that it's better to fight them in their yard than in ours and have the absolute and utmost respect and gratitude for those people who have served in the various desert campaigns. I WILL NOT let the antics of a bunch of vastly overpaid prima-donnas affect the feelings of gratitude that I have for my country or those who have served her in any capacity.

GOD BLESS AMERICA

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