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Jul 15, 2018 08:56:04   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
You have not seen because you have not looked!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2017/11/29/nfl-players-funding-social-justice-causes/908173001/

Many players work with kids on the field.



traderjohn wrote:
OK...so for about 3 minutes a week they "take a knee"What have they done in all the other minutes to solve the problems they are highlighting? Have they initiated any educational incentives? Any programs directed towards what you need to do to be successful? A discussion concerning your responsibilities if you father a child or if you are the mother of a child the care of the child is your personal responsibility, not the taxpayer and every entitlement program known to mankind. What have they done??? Just BS no substance no personal involvement. Am I wrong?? I have not seen anything these guys are involved in.
OK...so for about 3 minutes a week they "take... (show quote)

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Jul 15, 2018 08:58:49   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
I think you will change your tune when those right wing judges take away your medicare and social security they have already taken away your healthcare!


traderjohn wrote:
So right. I would rather "stack the federal benches" to the left. Way left. That would be better. By the by what does this have to do with the knee thing?

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Jul 15, 2018 09:03:41   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
The NFL hasn't even played its first football game yet. No football player has taken a knee yet? Exhibition games start in August. This issue was settled among NFL owners and players. Anyone kneeling in the future is to be identified and fined. As an owner, if I am losing money, I'm not likely going to give you a gigantic pay raise for your kneeling. Let's wait and see what happens. Some teams will come out after the Anthem has been played. It's optional now.

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Jul 15, 2018 09:04:46   #
tomcat
 
ole sarg wrote:
You fool!

You forget Obama saved the nation from a complete economic collapse! He reversed the runaway spending spree that is being reinstituted by this do nothing President! Obama gave the nation healthcare which is being taken away as I type. there was little or no corruption in his administration and no one went to jail as there will be in this administration.

You sir have no grasp on reality!


No corruption yet, just an infiltration of Muslims. At least corruption is American and not the hidden insidious agendas of Muslims. As far as Healthcare, have you seen what the new rates are for 2019 now? Did you think that the insurance companies were going to lose money because of a national health wide policy? They are going to increase the costs substantially for folks that can afford it and now make it less affordable for those of us that previously could afford it--thanks to your Muslim president and all because of some sorry-ass people who were too lazy to go out and get a job and earn a real living.

If I had my way, any and all welfare would end today for anyone under 65. So there! Put that in your collectivist, l*****t, socialist pants and get the heck out of my country.....

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Jul 15, 2018 09:07:52   #
FrankR Loc: NYC
 
tomcat wrote:
Yes, you should be very very concerned. We Trump supporters might just return this country to the same values and principles that your father and grandfather enjoyed in the 50's........


What values and principals would those be? That Black and White kids couldn’t go to school together? That we were so superior African-Americans couldn’t even use the same bathroom as us, that they couldn’t v**e? Or was it that industry could work you to the bone, subject you to hazards of all kinds, with no responsibility, while paying you peanuts? That they could dump any kind of crap into our rivers, streams and oceans, until one of them caught fire, until they created Love Canal, or that they pumped any crap they wanted into the air, creating acid rain? You donald rump supporters, if you’re allowed to, just might run this country into the ground backing that unqualified, incapable, self serving wart on the nose of humanity.

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Jul 15, 2018 09:09:34   #
tomcat
 
ole sarg wrote:
I think you will change your tune when those right wing judges take away your medicare and social security they have already taken away your healthcare!



Where did you get that stupid, moronic idea? No doubt from the L*****t "news" cast. Nobody is taking away Medicare or Social Security and it's nowhere on anyone's agenda to do so. And the healthcare that exists should never have been there to begin with--nothing but an underhanded way to turn us more and more into a European country. You must have smoked too much marijuana or done too many drugs somewhere along the way---or have you been chugging down Hillary's kool-aid while watching CNN?

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Jul 15, 2018 09:13:07   #
tomcat
 
FrankR wrote:
What values and principals would those be? That Black and White kids couldn’t go to school together? That we were so superior African-Americans couldn’t even use the same bathroom as us, that they couldn’t v**e? Or was it that industry could work you to the bone, subject you to hazards of all kinds, with no responsibility, while paying you peanuts? That they could dump any kind of crap into our rivers, streams and oceans, until one of them caught fire, until they created Love Canal, or that they pumped any crap they wanted into the air, creating acid rain? You donald rump supporters, if you’re allowed to, just might run this country into the ground backing that unqualified, incapable, self serving wart on the nose of humanity.
What values and principals would those be? That B... (show quote)


Yep and take away their v****g rights too.....then we would not have such morons in Congress today. I would only hope that that black Congress lady would come to my table while I am dining out and get in my face, just one time.....

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Jul 15, 2018 09:24:52   #
Stash Loc: South Central Massachusetts
 
As a 76 year old veteran, I stand at attention and salute for the National Anthem and
our f**g. I will continue to do so as long as I'm able.

Veterans and active-duty military not in uniform may render the military-style hand salute
during the playing of the national anthem, thanks to changes in federal law that took effect
in October of 2008.

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Jul 15, 2018 09:56:26   #
Michael1079 Loc: Indiana
 
Excellent post. Thamk you

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Jul 15, 2018 09:59:33   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
DJ Mills wrote:
I dont know whk wrote thus, but I really like it.

Take a knee...

Take a little trip to Valley Forge in January. Hold a musket ball in your
Fingers and imagine it piercing your flesh and breaking a bone or two.
There won't be a doctor or trainer to assist you until after the battle, so
Just wait your turn. Take your cleats and socks off to get a real
Experience.

Then, take a knee on the beach in Normandy where man after American man
Stormed the beach, even as the one in front of him was shot to pieces, the
Very sea stained with American blood. The only blockers most had were the
Dead bodies in front of them, riddled with bullets from enemy fire.

Take a knee in the sweat soaked jungles of Vietnam. From Khe Sanh to
Saigon, anywhere will do. Americans died in all those jungles. There was no
Playbook that told them what was next, but they knew what f**g they
Represented. When they came home, they were protested as well, and spit on
For reasons only cowards know.

Take another knee in the blood drenched sands of Fallujah in 110 degree
Heat. Wear your Kevlar helmet and battle dress. Your number won't be
Printed on it unless your number is up! You'll need to stay hydrated but
There won't be anyone to squirt Gatorade into your mouth. You're on your
Own.

There are a lot of places to take a knee where Americans have given their
Lives all over the world. When you use the banner under which they fought
As a source for your displeasure, you dishonor the memories of those who
Bled for the very freedoms you have. That's what the red stripes mean. It
Represents the blood of those who spilled a sea of it defending your
Liberty.

While you're on your knee, pray for those that came before you, not on a
Manicured lawn striped and printed with numbers to announce every inch of
Ground taken, but on nameless hills and bloodied beaches and sweltering
Forests and bitter cold mountains, every inch marked by an American life
Lost serving that f**g you protest.

No cheerleaders, no announcers, no coaches, no fans, just American men and
Women, delivering the real fight against those who chose to harm us,
Blazing a path so you would have the right to "take a knee." You haven't
Any inkling of what it took to get you where you are, but your "protest" is
Duly noted. Not only is it disgraceful to a nation of real heroes, it
Serves the purpose of pointing to your ingratitude for those who chose to
Defend you under that banner that will still wave long after your jersey is
Retired.

If you really feel the need to take a knee, come with me to church on
Sunday and we'll both kneel before Almighty God. We'll thank Him for
Preserving this country for as long as He has We'll beg forgiveness for our
Ingratitude for all He has provided us. We'll appeal to Him for
Understanding and wisdom. We'll pray for liberty and justice for all,
Because He is the one who provides those things. But there will be no
Protest. There will only be gratitude for His provision and a plea for His
Continued grace and mercy on the land of the free and the home of the
Brave. It goes like this, GOD BLESS AMERICA
I dont know whk wrote thus, but I really like it. ... (show quote)


Excellent....time well spent!

Let me add

“Take a short trip to Bataan and take a knee. Imagine losing your “game” but not flying home afterwards in elite class with drinks, steaks, beats headphones, and getting home to party at the newest, hottest clubs with the hottest women.
Instead, you are forced to walk, barefoot, to an unknown destination. You are beaten, starved, imprisoned, k**led...............in essence, consequences to your actions at all levels.”

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Jul 15, 2018 10:02:02   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
foathog wrote:
They are not taking a knee to disrespect the f**g or what others have done to preserve it. Donald "Bone Spurs" has one hell of a nerve to play the part of super patriot by castigating them. But he would have run right into that school in Florida to go after that gunman. Yeah sure. I think it's all about to hit the fan on him soon.



This thread has NOTHING to do with Trump....go take a pill or something. Your rabid, one-minded hatred makes you an ass.

The NFL players have changed their story so many times only an imbecile would buy their story as being soooooo righteous.

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Jul 15, 2018 10:02:14   #
Stephan G
 
3dees wrote:
of all the ways one can protest, why has it to be the f**g. they say it is not disrespectful to veterans. well, I am a wounded Viet Nam veteran and I feel they disrespect me every time they kneel, to say nothing about the thousands of those thru the years that did not return. it's been 50 years since I came home, but I will never forget how we were treated in our own country. I was never spit on, but it was funny that I couldn't find a job until I stopped listing my military service on job applications. I get thanked often now for my service, and it feels great. just wish it would have happened 50 years ago.
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Did you defend the f**g or the country represented by the f**g? Please consider this as an honest and serious question from another Vietnam veteran.

The US Congress never declared war on Vietnam, nor on North Korea. The US military was hamstrung by the rules set by the United Nations.

You and I, though, fought for that right of self-expression of kneeling, not to protest, but to bring attention to the wrongs going on now.

The playing of the national anthem at professional sports is degrading the service done by our military, IMO. It is used as a sales hook to get people into the stadiums. Those people standing are not doing for patriotism. They are doing it because someone said, "Please stand".

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Jul 15, 2018 10:04:20   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
traderjohn wrote:
OK...so for about 3 minutes a week they "take a knee"What have they done in all the other minutes to solve the problems they are highlighting? Have they initiated any educational incentives? Any programs directed towards what you need to do to be successful? A discussion concerning your responsibilities if you father a child or if you are the mother of a child the care of the child is your personal responsibility, not the taxpayer and every entitlement program known to mankind. What have they done??? Just BS no substance no personal involvement. Am I wrong?? I have not seen anything these guys are involved in.
OK...so for about 3 minutes a week they "take... (show quote)



To credit where it’s due, a small cadre has gotten involved 8n some pretty significant work. Unfortunately some of these same have turned their work into political issues as much or more so than humanitarian issues.

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Jul 15, 2018 10:06:53   #
Stephan G
 
tomcat wrote:
You should be very afraid as long as rampant immigration continues unchecked. Your grandchildren are going to grow up under Sharia law and bowing down to face the east several times a day.....



I worry about the rampant self-inflicted ignorance shown by many self-described Americans..

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Jul 15, 2018 10:09:01   #
Stephan G
 
Cykdelic wrote:
To credit where it’s due, a small cadre has gotten involved 8n some pretty significant work. Unfortunately some of these same have turned their work into political issues as much or more so than humanitarian issues.


Humanitarian and Political are not in any way separate.

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