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Jun 24, 2018 22:23:34   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
South Dakota has no state income tax. That's why they are hurting for funds....
bnsf wrote:
If your state has a business in it like Wal-Mart, Amazon, Sears, Target you should pay sales tax. But it say you purchase car parts from JC Whitney to rebuilt a 1968 Pontiac 455 engine you should not pay tax on these parts since this store is not in your state. This was the way the law was written, but South Dakota was losing money because of internet sales, took this to court and won. Since South Dakota is the home of collection agencies they do not have any stores that sell on internet and that were losing money from it and ask the Supreme Court to change the law so that every state collects there fair share of taxes. So maybe we should pass a law and collect a part of South Dakota's sales tax and pass it around to the rest of the state's since they opened up there mouths and is now costing everyone sales tax on items purchased. Better idea why doesn't the Supremne Court charge the tribal casinos with paying taxes on the money they take in from the people who gamble there since the Court claims it is legal for People to gamble at trouble casinos.
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Jun 24, 2018 23:06:31   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
d3200prime wrote:
The SCOTUS ruling allows states (at their discretion) to collect sales tax from online businesses. If the citizens of a particular state do not want this in their state then they should make it known to their elected officials. Public opinion is a very powerful influence in political policymaking.


Not in Illinois....

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Jun 24, 2018 23:17:11   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
Will be business as usual only now more money in the politicians pockets.

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Jun 24, 2018 23:23:32   #
sv3noKin51E
 
Our state along with several others last year finally hammered Amazon into smacking everyone with state sales tax for delivery addresses, if the products were sold/fulfilled by Amazon. Our state was dismayed they didn't get the windfall they thought they were going to get. So much for the declaration that internet sales weren't going to be taxed, long ago and forgotten. Depending on the state, volume of sales to any particular state from a particular state or out of state entity, or how much the lawyers can squeeze out of everyone, will play out over the next 12 months to answer most of those questions. Start counting how many breaths you can take per day; taxing air is next. It used to be the rule if it moves tax it; if it doesn't move, it's land, tax it more.

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Jun 25, 2018 06:25:36   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
bnsf wrote:
If your state has a business in it like Wal-Mart, Amazon, Sears, Target you should pay sales tax. But it say you purchase car parts from JC Whitney to rebuilt a 1968 Pontiac 455 engine you should not pay tax on these parts since this store is not in your state. This was the way the law was written, but South Dakota was losing money because of internet sales, took this to court and won. Since South Dakota is the home of collection agencies they do not have any stores that sell on internet and that were losing money from it and ask the Supreme Court to change the law so that every state collects there fair share of taxes. So maybe we should pass a law and collect a part of South Dakota's sales tax and pass it around to the rest of the state's since they opened up there mouths and is now costing everyone sales tax on items purchased. Better idea why doesn't the Supremne Court charge the tribal casinos with paying taxes on the money they take in from the people who gamble there since the Court claims it is legal for People to gamble at trouble casinos.
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Sorry but the Supreme Court doesn't change laws just interprets them. However I agree with you about the casinos maybe deduct some of the welfare given to the tribes based in the amount of taxes they would have generated through the casino

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Jun 25, 2018 07:48:19   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
But if they interpret them wrong they enable bad law...look at the Obamacare Mandate...

Blaster34 wrote:
Sorry but the Supreme Court doesn't change laws just interprets them. However I agree with you about the casinos maybe deduct some of the welfare given to the tribes based in the amount of taxes they would have generated through the casino

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Jun 25, 2018 07:53:16   #
mgoldfield
 
These are not new sales taxes. It's about enforcing the collection of those taxes across state lines.

Buyers have always been responsible for paying sales tax on purchases made from out-of-state sellers.

Time better spent taking photographs!

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Jun 25, 2018 07:55:55   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
But if they interpret them wrong they enable bad law...look at the Obamacare Mandate...



That's just one of hundreds of bad laws SCOTUS has approved/interpreted within the confines of the Constitution...

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Jun 25, 2018 08:48:23   #
hpucker99 Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
No it doesn't. It means that the state, county and city in which you live collects the tax. But first, the vendor must collect the tax from the POS (point of sale) and then forward the money to the state, county and city in which that person lives. There are literally thousands of different tax rates for different states and cities. I live in Orange County CA and the tax is 7.75% in LA, one county over it's 9.5%. But that's just an estimate. It depends on each city too. Take a look at the rate website below. Imagine being a lonely ecommerce company that sells product over the internet and the nightmare you'll encounter by trying to figure out what city and state or county gets what for the widget you just sold for a dollar three ninety eight.

https://www.avalara.com/taxrates/en/download-tax-tables.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw37fZBRD3ARIsAJihSr3Xw2v1BCFEAFjTySlwvYrd7OLQJSF219jEQkLRmX5xUxi5hrv4LAEaAgFQEALw_wcB&CampaignID=7010b000001DgsXAAS&st-t=all_visitors&lso=Paid%20Digital&lsmr=Paid%20Digital&s_kwcid=AL!5131!3!228169930994!b!!g!!%2Bstate%20%2Bsales%20%2Btaxes&ef_id=WK6qeQAABWnSHtyB:20180623161025:s
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If they can make a table, they should be able to have the tax calculated by zip code unless there are zip codes that cross taxing jurisdictions.

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Jun 25, 2018 08:49:01   #
hpucker99 Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
South Dakota has no state income tax. That's why they are hurting for funds....


There is also the down turn in the price of oil.

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Jun 25, 2018 08:56:49   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Back when South Dakota first brought the suit that wasn't the case...
hpucker99 wrote:
There is also the down turn in the price of oil.

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Jun 25, 2018 09:05:32   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
You ask this question: "Better idea why doesn't the Supremne(sic) Court charge the tribal casinos with paying taxes on the money they take in from the people who gamble there since the Court claims it is legal for People to gamble at trouble(sic) casinos."

Answer:

1) The individual states in the U.S. and the U.S. Congress itself levy taxes. The U.S. Supreme Court does not have the authority to levy taxes. The Supreme Court says what the law is.

2) The tribes that own tribal casinos function as governments. Governments do not pay taxes.

3) Businesses and individuals pay taxes.

4) Under a tribal-state compact bargained by both parties to it, a tribal government may divert a share of its business revenue to the state for various purposes. For example, the roads near a casino may require upgrading to accommodate increased traffic from casino guests.

5) Tribal members, casino employees, and casino guests pay sales tax on goods and services purchased off the land of the tribe, in town -- sometimes a substantial local and state source of taxation.

6) Casino employees pay state income tax if in place.

7) By law as codified by the U.S. Congress, tribal members who live and work on their tribal lands do not pay state income tax.

8) Tribal members pay federal income tax to the IRS no matter where they live and work.

In general, as worthy of note, tribal casinos function as an economic engine in a local economy.
bnsf wrote:
If your state has a business in it like Wal-Mart, Amazon, Sears, Target you should pay sales tax. But it say you purchase car parts from JC Whitney to rebuilt a 1968 Pontiac 455 engine you should not pay tax on these parts since this store is not in your state. This was the way the law was written, but South Dakota was losing money because of internet sales, took this to court and won. Since South Dakota is the home of collection agencies they do not have any stores that sell on internet and that were losing money from it and ask the Supreme Court to change the law so that every state collects there fair share of taxes. So maybe we should pass a law and collect a part of South Dakota's sales tax and pass it around to the rest of the state's since they opened up there mouths and is now costing everyone sales tax on items purchased. Better idea why doesn't the Supremne Court charge the tribal casinos with paying taxes on the money they take in from the people who gamble there since the Court claims it is legal for People to gamble at trouble casinos.
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Jun 25, 2018 09:45:52   #
chefpat1
 
First, they are not charging the sales tax, they are collecting it. I have always agreed that used items should not be subject to sales tax as the tax for that item was already paid when it was purchased new.
The retailers are being forced to work for the states, collecting sales tax for them, with no compensation for the time and expense they incur because of it....another thing I do not think is fair.
d3200prime wrote:
I agree. Each state charges sales tax to be used exclusively for that state's purposes for sales taxes. It's simple for me. If I purchase an item over the internet from a state which has no state sales tax base then I would not expect to be charged sales tax on that item. The fact the item is being sent to a state that taxes such items has absolutely no bearing on that transaction. Conversely, if I purchased an item over the internet from a state that charges sales tax then I would expect that states sales tax to be figured into the transaction. This is only right.

Concerning used items: If a person operates a for-profit business selling used goods then why would you believe that person should be exempt from charging sales tax?
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Jun 25, 2018 10:16:43   #
d3200prime
 
Bill_de wrote:
Only "the other guy" should have to pay it.

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I like your sense of humor............giggle, giggle.

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Jun 25, 2018 10:18:53   #
avman Loc: Normal IL
 
It doesn't really matter much personally to me - I live in a state that has no sales tax. I earn my income in another state and pay income tax there, which I am much more comfortable with. And of course, I NEVER make big ticket purchases there if possible. I come home to New Hampshire and buy it there instead, or buy it over the web where I don't (and won't have to in the future) pay it.

As various state governments learn the windfall to be realized....those states that don't already do so, will begin to collect sales taxes. Enjoy your freedom while you can!

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