CA in poverty (Page 2): So according to the chart you linked, there are 14.5% of the people in California living in poverty. But, that same chart shows. 29.8% in Mississippi, 18.1% in...

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

WNYShooter wrote:

Actually, you can't:

https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/demo/tables/p60/261/table5.xlsx

So according to the chart you linked, there are 14.5% of the people in California living in poverty. But, that same chart shows. 29.8% in Mississippi, 18.1% in Arizona, 16.8% in Alabama, 15.2% in Florida and a bunch of others so your chart would show that on a per-capita basis, California is not the poorest state.
Nice spin if you go by raw numbers but poverty needs to be on a per-capita basis if it is to mean anything and your chart does not bear out your theory.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

" ... but but but California!!" Sweet Home SoCal!! Of course you couldn't pay me to live there now but the old days of early surfing and the hippie party up and down the coast was a time and place not to be missed!!!

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

thom w wrote:

Nice chart but it doesn't say California has the highest percentage of persons below poverty.

The Fed started going by the
Supplemental Poverty Measure years ago because it's a more accurate measure than the official number. This chart lists both. The site the chart is at explains the whole measure system and why the SPM was developed. Educate yourself.

WNYShooter Loc: WNY

Frank T wrote:

So according to the chart you linked, there are 14.5% of the people in California living in poverty. But, that same chart shows. 29.8% in Mississippi, 18.1% in Arizona, 16.8% in Alabama, 15.2% in Florida and a bunch of others so your chart would show that on a per-capita basis, California is not the poorest state.
Nice spin if you go by raw numbers but poverty needs to be on a per-capita basis if it is to mean anything and your chart does not bear out your theory.

The problem is you don't understand the data you're looking at.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Frank T wrote:

So according to the chart you linked, there are 14.5% of the people in California living in poverty. But, that same chart shows. 29.8% in Mississippi, 18.1% in Arizona, 16.8% in Alabama, 15.2% in Florida and a bunch of others so your chart would show that on a per-capita basis, California is not the poorest state.
Nice spin if you go by raw numbers but poverty needs to be on a per-capita basis if it is to mean anything and your chart does not bear out your theory.

You have to read the right side of the chart as well as the methodology in how they arrived at their findings.... Here is the report, the pertinent chart is on page pg27 and the right side of the chart on that page shows "SPM" as it is weighted for the cost of living in the communities where these people live and yes, California, according to the census bureau when factors such as the costs of living are factored in, leads the nation in poverty.

http://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2017/demo/p60-261.pdf

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Blurryeyed wrote:

You have to read the right side of the chart as we... (show quote)

These folks seem not regard the L.A. Times noteworthy. I read it in the news here in Taiwan a day or two ago. Does not surprise me, we have thousands of folks living in skid row which is about 8 blocks east of downtown, on top of that I find groups of tents all over the city, and many encaments under freeway overpasses.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

Oh well what the LA Times printed was an opinion piece. I guess it is one's mans opinion but it is not based on national data but rather the guys interpretation of incomplete data.

In short, much ado about nothing.

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

thom w wrote:

"CA is now listed as having more people in poverty then any other state. Highest % of any state."

Source please. I can find nothing that backs up your statement

Try the L.A. Times as a starter......

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

Also.....
https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/13/walters-why-does-california-have-the-nations-highest-poverty-level/

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

ole sarg wrote:

Oh well what the LA Times printed was an opinion piece. I guess it is one's mans opinion but it is not based on national data but rather the guys interpretation of incomplete data.

In short, much ado about nothing.

Not really——- “...Census Bureau’s Supplemental Poverty Measure, which factors in the cost of housing, food, utilities and clothing, and which includes noncash government assistance as a form of income.”

jzehaz Loc: Pleasantville, NY

Not sure which state is the worst - depends on how you parse the numbers - here is another take on poverty in California - from 9/2016.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2016/09/28/why-does-california-have-the-nations-highest-poverty-rate/

Thistletop Loc: East Tennessee

I checked the dates of the publications and one article is almost three years old and the other was published a few days ago.

FrumCA

Frank T wrote:

Actually, you can dispute it. USA Today lists Mississippi as #1.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/02/15/cheat-sheet-states-poverty/23325629/

Nope. It's CA. This USAToday story is from 2015. Time to catch up....

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Cykdelic wrote:

Try the L.A. Times as a starter......

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

Also.....
https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/08/13/walters-why-does-california-have-the-nations-highest-poverty-level/

Looks like the Mercury is blaming it on republican areas of the state. (they didn't say it in those words.They listed the areas and I know about those areas.)

One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID

PinOakEO wrote:

CA is now listed as having more people in poverty then any other state. Highest % of any state.

About 30 yrs ago, CA was the 6th largest economy in the world.

If poverty disappeared, so would many state employees lose their jobs.

Who cares, they picked it.

FrumCA

thom w wrote:

Looks like the Mercury is blaming it on republican areas of the state. (they didn't say it in those words.They listed the areas and I know about those areas.)

Living in a largely democratic city and region you would, of course, point this out. I think much of the education ratings cited in the Mercury News article can be attributed to the large migrant worker population in and around these cities.