IBM

I would say forget the camera and the lens , if ???? You haven't had at least five years of big enthusiasm for taking photos, and knowing
The inner workings of a DX crop camera like the back of your hand , and also know what every change you make in your camera settings
Will have on the out come of the scene your shooting . If you don't know this and untell you do , the images you take with the 850 nikon and
the $2000 lens will not be any different from a nikon d7000 and a $650 lens, but if you know the D7000 inside out , then go for the gold
Or any other crop camera just as good . If you make it thus far you will never have to ask that question again , or if your loaded then go for the feel and the looks you will get , it will make you feel like a shooter .

SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont

Did I hear someone mention trolling? Have to wonder... 4 pages of responses and nothing from this person sabrejet. Sabrejet, if you are out there, how about letting us know you care, if you are serious. There are a lot of people who ask questions and there is not much way to tell which ones are scamming. In the beginning, most of us assume questioners are truly in need of answers. But we don't need more inspiration here for snarky responses!

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Sorry, but I have to disagree. I've used 3 different copies on a D800 and they were dreadful. However, they were ok on a D800 and a D500. It's no surprise That that lens has not been on Nikon's list of recommended lens for the D8XX series of cameras. Nikon has better lenses, and that is what the OP should be considering.

nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.dslrbodies.com/lenses/lens-databases-for-nikon/thoms-recommended-lenses-2.html&ved=0ahUKEwjLpeTO8f_VAhUI0IMKHY1SAxEQFggzMAE&usg=AFQjCNEF25u37bL5JU49ylSPPF1nqmW3VA Thom Hogans recommended lenses .Is a good place to start this will be a hard way to start with a d850. But it should be fun .Read and absorb all articles and technical bulletins. I have the d810 and got Thom' s ebook on the d800 series and d810. I don't think he has the d850 out yet , it would not hurt to read the one out on the d810 sister.

Haydon

I would suspect it would magnify the flaws even more with the resolution increase.

Personally I would never put truck tires on a Ferrari. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

I had one of those lenses when I first bought my 5DIII. It was sent back within 3 days and I bought a 70-300L. Haven't looked back. It's easy to become complacent with good glass. I don't understand compromises like that with high end bodies.

Peter LeesburgVA

I'm hoping you have an idea of what type of photos and in what settings/locations/situation you intend to take most of your photos. The majority of responses so far advise either to get the 24-70mm ($2100-$2800 new) lens or some ungodly long zoom lens. I have the 24-70mm lens and it is a good general purpose lens which is reasonably sharp, but it is very expensive. You can go to the B&H used lens section and get one for $1400-$1600, but it's still very expensive. That said, if you're just starting out I'd recommend a lot cheaper and perhaps more usable lens with which to start. Nikon's 50mm f1.4 (Nikon AF NIKKOR 50mm f/1.4D Autofocus Lens, at $299) or much cheaper f1.8 (Nikon AF NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8D Lens, at $132). Both lenses are very sharp and can capture a wealth of photos at minimal cost. If you are a macro adherent a 60mm macro lens (Nikon AF FX Micro-NIKKOR 60mm f/2.8D Lens with Auto Focus for Nikon DSLR Cameras, at $419) is a great tool for both closeups and portraits. Those lens prices came from B&H Photo which is a good, honest seller of quality photo equipment. Both lenses are light weight and produce very sharp images. If you simply have to have a longer telephoto lens I'd go with the Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8E FL ED VR Lens which gives excellent results, but again it's going to cost you an arm and a leg at $2800 new. You can get the same lens used in excellent condition from B&H for $1150-$1500. One last topic, how much weight are you willing to carry around for hours at a time? If carrying heavy gear around with you is not a concern then the 24-70 and 70-200 mm lenses should be just great. But if your willingness to carry around heavy, high quality lenses is not open ended and the mere presence of a large camera and lens may be inappropriate then I'd start with the short lenses. It all depends on your intended subjects and your willingness to carry around bulky, heavy gear for hours on end. OK, I'll confess, I have a photo backpack and carry my bulky array of lenses when I go somewhere to take photos...but it's not for everyone.

tennis2618

The lens is more important than the camera in getting great shots. You are buying a great camera so get a great lens. I would stick with Nikon. My go to lens is the 24-70 VR (one of the holy trinity) as it covers so much of what most of us do--however you should select the best Nikon FX lens that best suits your work. You get what you pay for. For great advice call B&H and talk to one of their pro photography people.

I'll probably be trading up myself, from the D800 to the D850--but I haven't yet told my wife.

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

Does'nt really has anything to do with Nikon, sounds like more, you don't have a photography background and want to know which FF lenses you should consider?

DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX

I have a host but since you didn't tell us your genre — out of the box I would recommend the Nikon 24-120 f/4. I have the 14-24/24-70/70-200 and others.

IBM

For sure , the camera and a lens will only cost you $5000 plus tax the new computer to handle all the raw film and programs another
$3000, a printer to print the out large blow ups , if your not blowing them up then there is no need for a printer to print large than 10×8
You may find something for $1500 to $3000 , plus tax , and you still have one lens ,you will likely want a couple more another two to
$3000 . Then you start pixel peeping, blowing up a part the size of a postage stamp in your print . Lots of cost to do it right .

delkeener Loc: SW Rhode Island, USA

Since this appears to be a "money is no object" request I suggest the newer AF-S 58mm 1.4 G lens @ $1599. The lens is currently shown on backorder on the Nikon USA site. Nikon claims he lens is to honor the legendary old Noct 58mm 1.2

jcboy3

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 600mm f/4E FL ED VR Lens

Plus

Really Right Stuff TVC-45 Versa Series 4 Carbon Fiber Tripod

Really Right Stuff FG-02 FG Fluid-Gimbal Head with PG-CC Cradle Clamp

Really Right Stuff LCF-18 Foot for Nikon 500mm & 600mm f/4E FL Lenses

Lowepro Lens Trekker 600 AW III Backpack

LensCoat Lens Cover for Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 600mm f/4E FL ED VR Lens (Realtree Max4)

Haydon

Grin ;) Why not the new 800 5.6?

Acountry330 Loc: Dothan,Ala USA

Get the 24-70 2.8. You will not regret it. Why buy a top of the line camera and get a cheap leans.
enjoy your new purchase. Happy shooting.

Digital1022 Loc: Holland, PA

Gene51
I have used the 28-300 as a travel lens with my D800 with very respectable results. It gets a little soft at both ends, but anywhere from 35mm-270mm seems to produce usable quality images. I have used it on my D500 with better results, but with the crop, makes it not quite as good of a travel lens. I would agree that with the added MPs, the 850 might find some additional flaws and as you say, Nikon definitely makes better lenses for specific type of photography. If I were starting out with no Nikon Lenses and buying a D850 just to test it out, I would probably use a 24-70 and a 70-200 as both of those lenses are superb.