Indian life just 110 years ago
Jul 13, 2017 09:59:12 #
Apaflo wrote:
What about the history WE are making today! The bad things didn't stop 100 years ago. WE still have their land and don't pay the rent. Nor do we give the land back either.
WE are guilty.
WE are guilty.
You didn't read all I wrote!
"You can work for change in things you disagree with for the future but it's impossible to alter history, no matter how hard you try!
So keep feeling guilty or do something about it, other than blaming others!
Jul 13, 2017 10:07:01 #
Sirsnapalot wrote:
You didn't read all I wrote!
"You can work for change in things you disagree with for the future but it's impossible to alter history, no matter how hard you try!
So keep feeling guilty or do something about it, other than blaming others!
"You can work for change in things you disagree with for the future but it's impossible to alter history, no matter how hard you try!
So keep feeling guilty or do something about it, other than blaming others!
WE aren't doing anything about it. WE are just as guilty as can be. It isn't "others", it is you and me.
Jul 13, 2017 10:17:33 #
Sirsnapalot wrote:
What do you mean WE? I don't feel guilty for histo... (show quote)
I agree. No one seems to feel bad for my poor grandparents who were forced to leave their native lands in Europe to a foreign land with nothing in hopes of making a life for themselves.
Which they did on their own without expecting or getting anything from the government.
Jul 13, 2017 10:21:48 #
Apaflo wrote:
Discrimination against Native people in Alaska historically has been, and continues to be, colousal.
An example that is ongoing nationally is health care. Universally Native people gave up land in trade for health care (via the Indian Health Service). For the last 3 decades IHS has been funded at 60 percent of need. That is genocide hidden by systemic racism.
An example that is ongoing nationally is health care. Universally Native people gave up land in trade for health care (via the Indian Health Service). For the last 3 decades IHS has been funded at 60 percent of need. That is genocide hidden by systemic racism.
Are they denied things available to all other citizens of AK?
If so that would be discrimination. Not getting special benefits isn't discrimination.
Jul 13, 2017 10:28:45 #
Personally I think it was criminal what was done to native Americans. I also don't agree with those who claim they deserved it because they had a open emigration policy and so we should tighten ours now.
Jul 13, 2017 10:34:53 #
Apaflo wrote:
What about the history WE are making today! The bad things didn't stop 100 years ago. WE still have their land and don't pay the rent. Nor do we give the land back either.
WE are guilty.
WE are guilty.
What land or lands are you talking about? There was an awful lot of land in the west. The Native Americans certainly couldn't have claimed it all.
Jul 13, 2017 10:54:55 #
Apaflo wrote:
WE aren't doing anything about it. WE are just as guilty as can be. It isn't "others", it is you and me.
Here we go with WE again, I do know about you but I wasn't born when that happy! It is my duty to keep in justice from happening in the future!
Jul 13, 2017 11:48:21 #
rationalization, the one thing we can't do without. let's see,
1 we killed them by the ten's of thousands.
2 we called them savages as we stole their land.
3 we damn dear extinguished the bison for robes and to cut off their food supply.
4 we cut off their religion.
5 we gave them oud diseases.
all because we had better guns, and felt we could make better use of their land.
1 we killed them by the ten's of thousands.
2 we called them savages as we stole their land.
3 we damn dear extinguished the bison for robes and to cut off their food supply.
4 we cut off their religion.
5 we gave them oud diseases.
all because we had better guns, and felt we could make better use of their land.
Jul 13, 2017 12:47:25 #
Jul 13, 2017 12:47:57 #
Sirsnapalot wrote:
You didn't read all I wrote!
"You can work for change in things you disagree with for the future but it's impossible to alter history, no matter how hard you try!
So keep feeling guilty or do something about it, other than blaming others!
"You can work for change in things you disagree with for the future but it's impossible to alter history, no matter how hard you try!
So keep feeling guilty or do something about it, other than blaming others!
Jul 13, 2017 12:48:58 #
bull drink water wrote:
rationalization, the one thing we can't do without. let's see,
1 we killed them by the ten's of thousands.
2 we called them savages as we stole their land.
3 we damn dear extinguished the bison for robes and to cut off their food supply.
4 we cut off their religion.
5 we gave them oud diseases.
all because we had better guns, and felt we could make better use of their land.
1 we killed them by the ten's of thousands.
2 we called them savages as we stole their land.
3 we damn dear extinguished the bison for robes and to cut off their food supply.
4 we cut off their religion.
5 we gave them oud diseases.
all because we had better guns, and felt we could make better use of their land.
Does that mean we won?
Jul 13, 2017 12:56:46 #
Love the photos. Thanks for sharing. My mother talked a lot about those times so was very interesting for me
Jul 13, 2017 12:58:39 #
markngolf wrote:
Thanks Steve. Wonderful photography. Seeing this reminds me of how ashamed I am of how we slaughtered and treated beautifully rich Indian cultures. Did the same with black culture. "America the Beautiful" - not always and not for all.
Mark
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Mark
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Mark I agree with you about the Indian culture but am not in agreement about the black culture.
Dennis
Jul 13, 2017 13:06:28 #
SteveR wrote:
Outstanding photographic insights into Native American life from not so long ago.
http://www.littlethings.com/edward-curtis-native-americans/?utm_medium=Facebook
http://www.littlethings.com/edward-curtis-native-americans/?utm_medium=Facebook
Thank you so much for these photos. I enjoy thinking about different time periods and how close we are to the past. To me it is remarkable to think that my mother, born in 1921 was alive at the same time as Wyatt Earp, Bat Masterson etc. The gunfight at the OK Corral in Tombstone was only in 1881, not that long ago for my parents at their time. I enjoy checking out dates on tombstones and thinking about what these people saw in their lifetime. People born in 1880 were only 20 years away from the Civil War, saw the growth of trains, air travel, several wars and probably space travel. Amazing to me.
Dennis
Jul 13, 2017 13:32:56 #
Did you know that Oregon used to have a bounty on Indians. A lot of Indians shown in the pictures are dressed up in their ceremonial costumes.
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