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May 30, 2017 07:28:11   #
Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC
 
I'm retired military and often used C4. Packing a cell phone with C4 would decompress the cabin. I would like to get the openion of other X military who have used C4.

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May 30, 2017 07:39:44   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
I really don't understand the policy. Can't an explosive device be placed in luggage.

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May 30, 2017 07:45:15   #
Jim Bob
 
elliott937 wrote:
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frustrating, it now has. This morning, Home Land Security Secretary Kelly has announced that he is planning on a ban, both into and out of the US, of all electronics larger than a cell phone. He further said that these plans have been in discussion at most US airports and airlines. (Keep in mind, the last electronic band was announced virtually over night.)

Now, before anyone thinks I'm suggesting that these bands are totally wrong, I want to go on record in believing these bands are in our best safety interest.

That said, I plan to contact our hotel in Stockholm to see if I can ship my Canon DSLR to them, in advance of our trip.

Plan B? Does anyone know of a very very small high resolution dedicated camera that we should be considering? I'm referring to one that could be nearly as small as a cell phone?
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Reading your post started my day off on a sour note. For many people, a cell phone is simply not a substitute for a good rig. I don't know what to say. In an earlier thread a poster indicated the terrorists have won. Although I disagreed with that bald assertion, I'm wondering if I should reassess that opinion. Geesus. This is so disheartening. For all you engineers and scientists out there, is there a way harmful devices can be fully detected by some type of scanner? If so, wouldn't this make more sense?

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May 30, 2017 07:54:27   #
Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC
 
Bultaco wrote:
I'm retired military and often used C4. Packing a cell phone with C4 would decompress the cabin. I would like to get the openion of other X military who have used C4.

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May 30, 2017 07:56:43   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
elliott937 wrote:
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frustrating, it now has. This morning, Home Land Security Secretary Kelly has announced that he is planning on a ban, both into and out of the US, of all electronics larger than a cell phone. He further said that these plans have been in discussion at most US airports and airlines. (Keep in mind, the last electronic band was announced virtually over night.)

Now, before anyone thinks I'm suggesting that these bands are totally wrong, I want to go on record in believing these bands are in our best safety interest.

That said, I plan to contact our hotel in Stockholm to see if I can ship my Canon DSLR to them, in advance of our trip.

Plan B? Does anyone know of a very very small high resolution dedicated camera that we should be considering? I'm referring to one that could be nearly as small as a cell phone?
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frus... (show quote)


Reminds me of an old Buffalo Springfield song.

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May 30, 2017 07:59:17   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
In the past, I carried on my camera bag and packed my backup camera body, wrapped in bubble wrap, in checked baggage. My concern with the new screening is that someone is going to unwrap the any checked body to examine it/make sure there is no lithium battery in it and then leave it unwrapped to be thrown in the cargo hold.

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May 30, 2017 08:11:32   #
chfrus
 
Check another flight. I went to Oslo Norway from Denver Colorado with one change in Chicao via United Airlines..

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May 30, 2017 08:15:10   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Thank you Joe. I share the same concern, and why I've always carried my camera bag into the cabin, even to go under the next seat if not in the overhead, but never tossed below with the luggage.

In our household, we're also researching the $600 Panasonic LUMIX camera, (recommended by you folks) as perhaps the safest camera to take in the future. You all and I have read fellow members who actually were in a foreign country, only to learn of a new imposed ban, and had to come up with an alternate way to get their camera back into the US. So this reality is not really a new one. Considering current events, it may become a regular travel ban for a time to come.

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May 30, 2017 08:21:17   #
Mary Kate Loc: NYC
 
elliott937 wrote:
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frustrating, it now has. This morning, Home Land Security Secretary Kelly has announced that he is planning on a ban, both into and out of the US, of all electronics larger than a cell phone. He further said that these plans have been in discussion at most US airports and airlines. (Keep in mind, the last electronic band was announced virtually over night.)

Now, before anyone thinks I'm suggesting that these bands are totally wrong, I want to go on record in believing these bands are in our best safety interest.

That said, I plan to contact our hotel in Stockholm to see if I can ship my Canon DSLR to them, in advance of our trip.

Plan B? Does anyone know of a very very small high resolution dedicated camera that we should be considering? I'm referring to one that could be nearly as small as a cell phone?
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frus... (show quote)


I understand the frustration. I wonder how loud the outrage if no measures, were put in place and God forbid a laptop was rigged with explosives.

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May 30, 2017 08:25:03   #
insman1132 Loc: Southwest Florida
 
Maybe a good reason to stay home and travel within our own country?? Lots to see and do!

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May 30, 2017 08:34:27   #
breck Loc: Derbyshire UK
 
Well no longer will I be visiting the USA for holidays

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May 30, 2017 08:34:49   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
elliott937 wrote:
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frustrating, it now has. This morning, Home Land Security Secretary Kelly has announced that he is planning on a ban, both into and out of the US, of all electronics larger than a cell phone. He further said that these plans have been in discussion at most US airports and airlines. (Keep in mind, the last electronic band was announced virtually over night.)

Now, before anyone thinks I'm suggesting that these bands are totally wrong, I want to go on record in believing these bands are in our best safety interest.

That said, I plan to contact our hotel in Stockholm to see if I can ship my Canon DSLR to them, in advance of our trip.

Plan B? Does anyone know of a very very small high resolution dedicated camera that we should be considering? I'm referring to one that could be nearly as small as a cell phone?
Okay, when we thought it couldn't become more frus... (show quote)


Rent what you need locally.

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May 30, 2017 08:35:25   #
pelha Loc: middlle of nowhere NY
 
Bill Emmett wrote:
I can't imagine why a camera in the luggage compartment of a airliner is safer than in the cabin section. Exactly what are they trying to save us from? As of now, every laptop, camera bag, carry on, purse, wallet and even baby diaper bags are x-rayed, hand searched, wiped, and scrutinized by every means available. Packing this equipment in a armored Pelican Case or other method, and storing it into the bilge of the airliner does not give me any further sense of safety. What it does do, is separate the traveler from his most expensive prized possession, cameras, laptops, and other items. It sounds like a airline thieves wondrous dream of well identified, easy targets to steal. I think it's time for the flying public to make statements about this insane practice to their Congressional Representatives, and if that falls on deaf ears, stop flying. On my last trip to New Hampshire, I had to remove my skin tight knee brace, just to have it closely scrutinized for some unknown substance, but I was not asked about my undies. My wife was asked to remove her bra, since there is a metal part sewn into the thing. The laptop ban would really hurt business men, and women, with lost productive time while flying from office to office. I can't image doing a engineering report on a cell phone, with drawings etc. or a professional photographer, who does post processing while flying from one assignment to another. I have watched an enormous amount of professionally packed freight go onboard these airliners, why aren't these cartons not scrutinized, and responsible parties standing by as these cartons placed onboard? Why aren't these freight cartons opened and rummaged through by the TSA.

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Bill, excellent points. Time to hit twitter and pound our MoC with questions & statements about the stupidity of this. Also, logically thinking, electronics explode the same whether here or there. And until this new twist of idiocy, they were insisting we never check our lithium batteries. Are these batteries suddenly safe in the hold?

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May 30, 2017 08:46:38   #
edwdickinson Loc: Ardmore PA
 
Sounds like an opportunity for someone to open a camera rental business.

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May 30, 2017 08:51:10   #
djlouden Loc: Ocala, Florida
 
If the airlines get hit in the pocketbook with these onerous regulations you'll see a change real quick. In the meantime we see limits to our daily life getting more and more oppressive. Before long we'll all be wearing our hair like that fool in North Korea and clapping mindlessly for every fool that calls themselves a politician.

I think I'll stop flying until this get sorted out.

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