No cameras in or out of the US ??
May 29, 2017 11:31:03 #
May 29, 2017 11:31:19 #
Big Bill wrote:
" This morning, Home Land Security Secretary Kelly has announced that he is planning on a ban, both into and out of the US, of all electronics larger than a cell phone."
No, they didn't.
They banned them in the cabin.
Others figured it out, or actually read more than a headline.
No, they didn't.
They banned them in the cabin.
Others figured it out, or actually read more than a headline.
Well exactly. I'm not checking $20K worth of photo gear.
May 29, 2017 11:32:05 #
May 29, 2017 11:32:23 #
No disrespect, and I'm responding to your "No, they didn't", I'm here to tell you that I watched the live interview on Fox news broadcast, between Secretary Kelly and the Fox news person. And he precisely said he is planning on the ban. And yes, the ban would be for in-the-cabin electronics. I'll repeat, with three different planes for the trip, checked in luggage would be similar to a Las Vegas gamble.
May 29, 2017 11:37:11 #
Bob, We booked our flight(s) and hotel and cruise four months ago. Had we not, then your suggestion would be an excellent one.
May 29, 2017 11:41:14 #
May 29, 2017 11:54:58 #
I can't imagine why a camera in the luggage compartment of a airliner is safer than in the cabin section. Exactly what are they trying to save us from? As of now, every laptop, camera bag, carry on, purse, wallet and even baby diaper bags are x-rayed, hand searched, wiped, and scrutinized by every means available. Packing this equipment in a armored Pelican Case or other method, and storing it into the bilge of the airliner does not give me any further sense of safety. What it does do, is separate the traveler from his most expensive prized possession, cameras, laptops, and other items. It sounds like a airline thieves wondrous dream of well identified, easy targets to steal. I think it's time for the flying public to make statements about this insane practice to their Congressional Representatives, and if that falls on deaf ears, stop flying. On my last trip to New Hampshire, I had to remove my skin tight knee brace, just to have it closely scrutinized for some unknown substance, but I was not asked about my undies. My wife was asked to remove her bra, since there is a metal part sewn into the thing. The laptop ban would really hurt business men, and women, with lost productive time while flying from office to office. I can't image doing a engineering report on a cell phone, with drawings etc. or a professional photographer, who does post processing while flying from one assignment to another. I have watched an enormous amount of professionally packed freight go onboard these airliners, why aren't these cartons not scrutinized, and responsible parties standing by as these cartons placed onboard? Why aren't these freight cartons opened and rummaged through by the TSA.
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May 29, 2017 12:29:40 #
For now, it is a consideration and not yet a policy.
From Gizmodo about the Kelly interview with Wallace on Fox:
"Wallace asked Secretary Kelly, point blank, “Are you going to ban laptops from the cabin on all international flights both into and out of the U.S.?” He responded that he “might.” When asked to expand on that, Kelly said:
Well, there’s a real threat. Numerous threats against aviation, that’s really the thing that they are obsessed with, the terrorists, the idea of knocking down an airplane in flight, particularly if it’s a US carrier, particularly if it’s full of mostly US folks, people. It’s real.
Wallace pressed Kelly to provide a timetable for when he “might” do this. Kelly responded with some boilerplate talk about terrorism and international cooperation:
We’re still following the intelligence. The very, very good news is that we are working incredibly close with friends and partners around the world. We’re going to, and in the process of defining this, but we are going to raise the bar for generally speaking aviation security much higher than it is now.
So — and there’s new technologies down the road, not too far down the road that we will rely on. But it is a real sophisticated threat and I will reserve that decision until we see where it’s going."
From Gizmodo about the Kelly interview with Wallace on Fox:
"Wallace asked Secretary Kelly, point blank, “Are you going to ban laptops from the cabin on all international flights both into and out of the U.S.?” He responded that he “might.” When asked to expand on that, Kelly said:
Well, there’s a real threat. Numerous threats against aviation, that’s really the thing that they are obsessed with, the terrorists, the idea of knocking down an airplane in flight, particularly if it’s a US carrier, particularly if it’s full of mostly US folks, people. It’s real.
Wallace pressed Kelly to provide a timetable for when he “might” do this. Kelly responded with some boilerplate talk about terrorism and international cooperation:
We’re still following the intelligence. The very, very good news is that we are working incredibly close with friends and partners around the world. We’re going to, and in the process of defining this, but we are going to raise the bar for generally speaking aviation security much higher than it is now.
So — and there’s new technologies down the road, not too far down the road that we will rely on. But it is a real sophisticated threat and I will reserve that decision until we see where it’s going."
May 29, 2017 12:47:49 #
elliott937 wrote:
The Pelikan is a definite consideration, until you consider plane changes. For us, it will take three planes to get from St. Louis to Stockholm. If it were just one plane, I'd do the Pelikan check-in in a heart beat. But any regular traveler knows that two flights is a risk, and that three different planes is very high risk of ""lost or misdirected luggage"". That is what stops me from doing check-in with a Pelikan.
I think you have answered your own question. Either: 1) stay home this summer or 2) equip yourself with a smartphone, sit back and enjoy the scenery while you are traveling instead of pouring over the photos after you return home. /Ralph
May 29, 2017 12:53:16 #
Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, See the USA in a C-h-e-v-r-o-l-e-t! Hmmm, catchy little tune!
May 29, 2017 13:56:05 #
jerryc41 wrote:
They will have to do what I suggested a couple of weeks ago. Have everyone fly naked and bring no luggage. The airlines can hand out robes to passengers as they board. Shopping at their destination will help the local economy.
Go by the old maxim, "If they don't sell it there, YOU don't need it!" Never worked for me.
Staying one step ahead of the Terrorists is the challenge. Eliminating terrorists is the objective.
May 29, 2017 14:22:52 #
May 29, 2017 14:25:46 #
May 29, 2017 14:29:56 #
elliott937 wrote:
19 hours ago on Fox News.....an interview before the camera.
Are you quite certain that in the mind of Homeland Security Secretary Kelly, cameras are going to be considered as possible electronic threats in the same way as laptops? Was that specifically stated, or are you inferring it from the tone of the discussion?
May 29, 2017 14:33:32 #
For nearly two weeks, we've heard "nothing larger than a cell phone". And now "no lap top computers or tablets". I have to think that cameras and lenses are/would be considered super high risk of explosives. I could be wrong, I'd love to be wrong. But...
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