rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

--Bob

Mike1017

I use bridge and then PS works good for me LR to me is a bit clunky but it has its good points, its a matter of choice. I don't like LR handling my files, all my files are in external hard drives and when I need to get to them there easy access and not hanging around in LR every time you open LR. I guess what I am trying to say don't much care for having a library handling my files. Mike

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

"There is so much incorrect information being thrown about as fact that it is sure to leave many people scratching their heads. "
Agreed. Throwing computers, operating systems, plug-ins, cameras, image formats, Lightroom and Photoshop together makes for a daunting subject. If you had to start from scratch, where would you begin and how long would it take you to figure it out?

Those younger than the UHH crowd don't bother. They "intuitively" create their photography on a phone and "print" to Instagram.

TechLauren Loc: SW AZ

For me it was just an evolution. 15 or more years ago I was using a film camera but also loved computer graphics and messed around with them and started using photoshop when it came out. I don't even think there was a lightroom back then lol. Over the years I gradually switched to digital and kept using Photoshop out of force of habit. All the adobe apps are huge and expensive and the suite has changed over the years. They're not something you'd stumble over casually. It wasn't until about 3 years ago when I started exchanging photos with someone I met online gaming that I started using Lightroom and then only after being asked about 50 times why I didn't use it! Of course once I tried it, I immediately got it, having once had my own physical color darkroom. I never went back to Photoshop except to do something like remove power lines or something like that.

Azboy

I use Photoshop CC first and then I send the photo to Luminar/Pluto or Creative Kit 2016, Aurora 2017 and sometimes to Affinity Photo. I do my resizing in Photoshop along with using Adobe Bridge for cataloging. I don't use Lightroom anymore.

Chris981 Loc: Pacific Palisades

I use LRCC for image management and do some (5%) editing in PS. I found LRCC file management to be confusing until I watched a Kelby One video on Scott's simple system and how to back up files. I think the Adobe products (LR, PS etc.) are very powerful but it takes a real effort to learn to use them. The software is not intuitive. Their tutorials are not as good as third party ones, in my opinion. I want to own my software not license it but that is another story.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

In rather simple terms...

Lightroom is a high volume, cataloging, organizing, keywording, searching, sorting and batch processing software that allows very quick, global adjustments to images, as well as straightening and aspect ratios. LR's image retouching is rather slow and crude.

Photoshop allows more careful and precise individual image attention, pixel level (if necessary) editing and retouching, highly selective adjustments and corrections, combining of images, a host of additional filters and effects, as well as the best noise reduction and sharpening tools. But PS is not designed for batch processing and has minimal organizing, cataloging and search/sort capabilities.

They are two sides of a coin... Neither is truly complete without the other. Some people get by using only one or the other... Someone who only lightly edits and retouches their images might only ever need LR. Or someone who only shoots a relatively small number of images might be fine with only Photoshop. (Someone who needs a bit of both... but not as advanced as LR and PS... might find Adobe Elements ideal.)

Try doing any "layer and mask" process in Lightroom, for example. Or, try sorting and sequentially renaming or adding a keyword to 2000 image files in Photoshop.

TheDman Loc: USA

I access it through Bridge. ACR is the engine that both Photoshop and LR use to import raw files, but it isn't Photoshop, just like it isn't Lightroom. It's a plug-in for many Adobe products. Here's how Adobe defines it:

"Adobe Camera Raw has been a must-have tool for professional photographers since it was first released in 2003. Applications that support Adobe Camera Raw include Photoshop, Photoshop Elements, After Effects, and Bridge."

russelray Loc: La Mesa CA

Photoshop comes with Bridge, which is an extremely powerful program with organizing, cataloging, search, sort, renaming, and keyword functions. I have over a million files organized, cataloged, renamed, and keyworded using Bridge. Batch processing is a breeze, too.

foxy

I load photos into Bridge and then copy them into Lightroom. I do basic exposure work in ACR in Lightroom, delete any files I don't want and then move to Photoshop for more complicated work, if needed. I think LR is great for doing initial weeding out. It's so easy to just "x" pics you don't want and then delete them. Often the adjustments I make in LR are all that's needed. I like PS and have used it for years, but doing the initial edits in LR is easier and quicker for me.

mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois

Non concur. Explore the use of the brush tool in LR - it is different from the clone stamp, but lines - particularly straight lines - are very easily and quickly removed. Curved and irregular lines take a little more time and care, but that is true in PS as well.

crazydaddio Loc: Toronto Ontario Canada

98% Lightroom. 2% photoshop...and i usually need to have a youtube video running to get what I want done :-)

Photoshop is magical but unless you work in it every day, you will lose the skill....

Ricinus Loc: Leduc Alberta

If I understand all this correctly, Elements takes some feature from both LR and PS. Would that make it suitable for someone just starting out who doesn't want a steep learning curve?

Mike

Erik_H Loc: Denham Springs, Louisiana

Sure, it can be done, but I personally find that it's quicker, easier, and more precise with the tools available in PS.

BrentHarder Loc: Southern California

OK here's a question for everyone: Is there anyone out there that uses "BRIDGE" along with Photoshop? Does everyone think that LR is superior to Bridge? If so, what are those advantages of LR over Bridge? Is there anyone that has used BOTH LR and Bridge that would know? Thanks in advance.