Martino Loc: Northwest Florida

(Does that mean 1 PM Florida time?)

Depends what part of Florida you're in!

drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio

I too am a professional of the old school category. that means less shot and more good ones. I have noticed during my comeback to digital (I sort of retired after 1500 weddings but when digital hit the 24 mpx I came back to photography) I have noticed that there are many new pros out there who think that you should or seem to think that you should just turn the motor drive on high and let it run. Cutting down on the numbers and concentrating on the good shots unless you shoot a race car in a turn waiting for an accident you can lower your shot count and up your quality. I fell into that too many shots in my beginning in digital. now I edit on the fly and turn in fewer shots but those are the best shots. If you think you need that many keep the second card in your camera as backup while you edit on the fly. Yes I suggest you delete the worst shots during the shoot and not in computer but in camera. I have not had a disk corruption yet and I use all of my chips at least once every week. You can edit during a basketball game when there is no action to shoot. Especially at half time or waiting for the parking lot to clear at the end.
You will find you usually never go back to the backup chip unless you have a chip fail.

mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD

Not to quibble too much but ACR is part of PS not a stand-alone program, so you can start in PS.

efleck Loc: Vancouver, WA State

[quote=bsprague]
bsprague wrote:

Two of the more well known Lightroom trainers have replied to my requests for information. One is working on a book and the other has promised to unveil a full course tomorrow.

The course treats the Lightroom/Photoshop combination, synergistic "system" of the two parts. He has already released two "teaser" videos that preview the thought process for potential students. They are good.


I am interested in this "course" or book on the synergy between Lightroom and Photoshop. URL for the teaser videos?

Earl

mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD

What are you talking about? I never use LR and work on Raw files all the time. ACR is part of PS.

TheDman Loc: USA

So you're starting in ACR, not Photoshop. The two workspaces are not the same.

mflowe Loc: Port Deposit, MD

No, you're starting in PS. That's how you access ACR.

bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA

Why do you export from Lightroom to Photoshop with tiff rather than psd? I just completed a class where we were taught to use psd; although no explanation of why was given. Is there an advantage to tiff over psd or is it just your personal preference?

pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY

Very confusing if not wrong. LR allows one import RAW(and JPG, etc) , when you are processing RAW you are modifying a JPG representation of the file. I don't know if LR uses the jpg in the RAW file, or generates on the fly. And yes, there is a jpg in the raw file and what is used when you review the picture in camera.

Sorry but you can use LR only for it's cataloging, etc, if you please but you can immediately go and edit the picture in PS. While in PS I think you are editing a tiff version and have all the pixels as do in LR.

While I do using LR first, Primarily for it's ease of use and not pixel issues.

pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY

maybe it is an option?

dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl

While I agree generally with what you are saying, I don't ever delete anything on camera unless it is an absolute accidental shot.. like the lens was off or camera was sitting on my lap. I import everything into Lightroom and then go through and delete the out of focus and poorly composed shots. Then I go back and score my images. I took 420 shots of a beach wedding on Saturday. Roughly 100 shots were of the hotel where the bride, her mother and the bride's maids were dressing before the wedding. 250 shots were of the brief sunset wedding on the beach at Honeymoon Island (Dunedin, Fl.) and the final shots were at the post wedding dinner/reception. After going through the images, I reduced the entire wedding to about 300 quality shots for the project. Did I shot gun the wedding for pictures? No, I don't think so. What I did do is shoot everything that I thought I might want or need. It's ALWAYS easier to have photos and not need them (especially of a wedding, sporting event, or other venue where it would be impossible to go back and get more) than it is to throw out or not use images that don't "make the cut".

dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl

While I agree with part of what you are stating, both are making statements that are either wrong or misleading. Lightroom edits and adjusts RAW files by making a list of edits and adjustments to the original Raw image. It does not actually change the image but makes a list of changes to be displayed visually of the raw image. When the image is then exported to PSD, Tiff, or JPG, those edits and changes are included in the export. No RAW files were harmed in any way in this process. You can always hit reset and go back to the original image. In fact I often make several "virtual copies" of images with different edits or adjustments. One shot might yield 3 or 4 separate images in Lightroom. Once I've done all of the damage I can in Lightroom, I export the image to Photoshop and make more changes. When I save that, I have a Lightroom image then a photoshop image.

bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA

Earl,

In answer to a post from Jerry41, I put the URL in the reply a few posts back this morning: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-449471-3.html#7562818

The teasers are at: https://mattk.com/photoshop-system-bonus-2/

The trainer is Matt Kloskowski.

As I type (drum roll) the unveiling is an hour!

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

So does Photoshop.
--Bob

Bill_de Loc: US

This has turned into one of the most interesting Lightroom/PhotoShop threads I have ever seen. There is so much incorrect information being thrown about as fact that it is sure to leave many people scratching their heads.

I doubt that the thread itself is salvageable because by the time the resident "experts" show up they will just add to the confusion.

Anyone that has a real question or questions should start their own thread and ask specific questions.

Great entertainment value though!

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