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Oct 26, 2015 13:29:42   #
damoran
 
I need help in deciding which wide angle lens to purchase. I have a Canon 60 D and a 7D mark II camera. I want the lends for landscapes and indoor family photos as birthday parities. I am looking at Canon EFS 10-22 mm F3.5-4.5, Canon EFS 10-18 MM 4.5-5.6, Tamron 10-24 MM F3.5-4.5 and the Sigma 10-20 MM F3.5 lenses. They are very close in price from $299 to $599. My problem is that these lenses have been around for a long time, except for the Canon 10-18 MM but I don’t know if it would be good for indoors photos without a flash.
Thanks for any Help
Doug

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Oct 26, 2015 13:34:55   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I love my 10-18 mm, but I don't know that it would work for people indoors. There is distortion at the edges when you angle it + you need to be very, very close to fill the frame.

The 18-135 is so much more versatile. I bought a used one through B&H in January for $300.

Here are some with the 18-135:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-339332-1.html

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Oct 26, 2015 13:41:39   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
The Sigma and Tamron are currently newer editions. I have one of the Sigmas (in Sigma mount) I got around 2004 or so. It is now one or two generations out of date but is a good lens.

Just because a lens is older doesn't mean it is not good, just doesn't have the latest bells and whistles. Some of the older lenses are sharper than the new ones. They don't have all the coatings. That does mean you often need to do extra PP work to correct for what ever the new coatings correct.

I use a Canon 50 mm f/1.8 made in the 80's, it has metal mounts unlike the current model, fewer coatings, and is extremely sharp.

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Oct 26, 2015 13:49:48   #
damoran
 
Lynda, I have the 18-135 and use it as my walk around lens. I too love it but in a 12X12 room it is too big on a c-camera it is like a 28 mm lens
Thanks

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Oct 26, 2015 13:54:16   #
damoran
 
Robert, I am leaving toward the canon 10-22mm F 3.5-4.5 but The Sigma 10-20mm F 3.5 looks good also.
thanks

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Oct 26, 2015 14:14:22   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
damoran wrote:
Robert, I am leaving toward the canon 10-22mm F 3.5-4.5 but The Sigma 10-20mm F 3.5 looks good also.
thanks


Some reviews have indicated the Canon 10-18 mm is actually a bit sharper with less distortion than the much more expensive Canon 10-22. The build of the 10-22 is much better, but then it's a much more expensive lens. If you have any plans for using this lens for video on the 7D II and want to use auto focus, the choice is clear. Get the 10-18 which which has a dead quiet and smooth STM focus motor designed for video on Canon's latest bodies

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Oct 26, 2015 14:23:31   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Some reviews have indicated the Canon 10-18 mm is actually a bit sharper with less distortion than the much more expensive Canon 10-22. The build of the 10-22 is much better, but then it's a much more expensive lens. If you have any plans for using this lens for video on the 7D II and want to use auto focus, the choice is clear. Get the 10-18 which which has a dead quiet and smooth STM focus motor designed for video on Canon's latest bodies


I concur with this. I have the Canon 10-22 which I am very happy with -used to have a FD 20mm on my T90 - and the 10 - 18 didn't exist when I got the 10 - 22. Both are excellent lenses. For video or cost I'd go with the 10 - 18 STM, I don't think the image quality differences are huge, but lens technology is always advancing. Unless you need the better build quality, I can't think of a good reason not to buy the 10 - 18.

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Oct 26, 2015 14:39:41   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
Doug, I also have Rebels & a 60D. I have used the 18-135 and then up-graded to 15-85 both being the EFs. I wanted wider and budget was a consideration. Many of the listed glass was on my shop listed. I noticed lots of used glass on the used secondary market. I bought when The only EFS UW was the 10-22 was available. Look at Refurbished Canon 10-18 EFs when it is on promotion now 240. I have seen it 10 USD side-walk price. Don't rule out the Tokina 11-16 2.8. I bought the Tokina for my FF. love it.

Also there is the Korean prime. I have used that.

J. R.

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Oct 26, 2015 15:07:30   #
damoran
 
How is the Canon 10-18 MM lens for indoors use? If it was only for landscapes I would get it. Does anyone use it indoors in low light? what makes it so hard is all these lenses seem to be great lenses.
Doug

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Oct 26, 2015 15:19:03   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
damoran wrote:
How is the Canon 10-18 MM lens for indoors use? If it was only for landscapes I would get it. Does anyone use it indoors in low light? what makes it so hard is all these lenses seem to be great lenses.
Doug


The 10-22 is excellent for indoor use, as would be the 10 - 18.

Canon EF-S 10 - 22mm @ 10mm on a T3i. - HDR image
Canon EF-S 10 - 22mm @ 10mm on a T3i. - HDR image...
(Download)

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Oct 26, 2015 15:54:58   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
I don't know what lenses you currently have but I have a different approach, sell your 60D and get yourself a nice used 6D for taking family and indoor people photos, no crop factor to fuss with and the 6D does a nice job indoors. With the 6D and the 7DII you've got it covered, from portraits to landscapes to sports and wildlife to just about anything else...

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Oct 26, 2015 15:59:16   #
yds0066 Loc: Southwestern Illinois
 
If you are talking about indoors without a flash then the 10-22 is probably the better choice. f/3.5-4.5 vs f/4.5-5.6
A faster lens needs less light.

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Oct 26, 2015 16:00:35   #
MarkD Loc: NYC
 
I have a Sigma 10-20 f/4-5.6 and I'm very happy with it. But for indoor family shots you may need more speed. In that case consider the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 and Tokina 11-20 f/2.8.

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Oct 26, 2015 16:08:52   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
yds0066 wrote:
If you are talking about indoors without a flash then the 10-22 is probably the better choice. f/3.5-4.5 vs f/4.5-5.6
A faster lens needs less light.


Yes, but the 10 -18 has IS. It isn't that simple....

The shot that I posted as an example was tripod based, so what difference does a stop make in that scenario with an ultra wide? DOF isn't much of a consideration....

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Oct 26, 2015 16:19:17   #
yds0066 Loc: Southwestern Illinois
 
I guess if you have time to setup your tripod and frame the picture you want, then the speed of the lens does not matter. Especially if you are shooting furniture instead of grandkids or pets.

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