Crwiwy wrote:
My understanding is that the term 'Chimping' came from those who - after taking a picture - looked at the screen and made noises like a Chimp.
:thumbup: Not something you would see a pro do at a wedding. :D That would be funny, though.
I chimp to check the histogram to make sure exposure is correct
Chuck_893 wrote:
Do you think chimping is unprofessional, that real photographers dont do it and laugh at those that do? (I did a search and there seems not have been much discussion about this on the 'Hog.)
For the uninitiated, chimping is generally defined as the act of checking a just-taken picture on the LCD screen of your camera. The origin and etymology of the term is not clear, but its generally taken as pejorative inasmuch as it implies that one or more persons are gazing stupidly at your screen and making chimp noises, as in Oooo oooo oooo
Pejorative or not, chimping is simply checking your image on the LCD. It is argued (especially by street and event photographers) that if you do it after every single shot you are missing other shots, and I cannot argue with that. But its often implied, if not outright stated, that REAL photographers simply do not chimp! REAL photographers came up in film and had bloody better know what theyre doing because chimping is impossible with a film camera. That is also true.
Full disclosure: I chimp. I am not ashamed of it. I consider it just another tool, available to digital photographers. I love it. I came up in film. I know what Im doing. But when in the studio I often used Polaroid backs in my view cameras to insure that I had the lighting and exposure right. Thats chimping, is it not? I did not know a single studio pro who didnt do that at least some of the time.
I don't chimp every shot. We go places and do things. We spend a lot of $$$ to get there. I may not ever get back. Getting the picture right the first time is important. I chimp to check exposure and composition, and above all sharpness! I love that I can do that. I dont do it after every shot, but sometimes Ill sit in the shade and review shots. I dont scratch or make chimp or monkey noises. :lol:
More full disclosure: I use compact cameras that are always in live view. I take full advantage of that. My Nikon P7800 has an electronic viewfinder that I usually have showing everything: histogram, level, and briefly, right after exposure, a freeze-frame of what it got. Thats sort of full-time chimping I guess, and Im not sure any or all DSLRs can do it (mirrorless may be able to). But Im getting instant feedback with my eye to the finder and I think thats wonderful! I still double-check at some point, mostly to insure sharpness. I will sometimes switch to the blinkies view, mostly because I hate blown highlights. Checking every shot is probably overkill, but why not use every tool you have?
Well, I never know when to shut up
:D So what do you think? Is chimping unprofessional, and do you care? (Cuz I dont.) :mrgreen: :lol:
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Very well said. :thumbup:
I'm still trying to figure out why anyone cares. If one wants to chimp, do it. If not, don't. It's none of my or anyone else's business.
Hi Chuck
As you said it's a tool take advantage of when you need to; I do it when it's called for i would say lot's of professionals use it too.
Chuck_893 wrote:
Do you think chimping is unprofessional, that real photographers dont do it and laugh at those that do? (I did a search and there seems not have been much discussion about this on the 'Hog.)
For the uninitiated, chimping is generally defined as the act of checking a just-taken picture on the LCD screen of your camera. The origin and etymology of the term is not clear, but its generally taken as pejorative inasmuch as it implies that one or more persons are gazing stupidly at your screen and making chimp noises, as in Oooo oooo oooo
Pejorative or not, chimping is simply checking your image on the LCD. It is argued (especially by street and event photographers) that if you do it after every single shot you are missing other shots, and I cannot argue with that. But its often implied, if not outright stated, that REAL photographers simply do not chimp! REAL photographers came up in film and had bloody better know what theyre doing because chimping is impossible with a film camera. That is also true.
Full disclosure: I chimp. I am not ashamed of it. I consider it just another tool, available to digital photographers. I love it. I came up in film. I know what Im doing. But when in the studio I often used Polaroid backs in my view cameras to insure that I had the lighting and exposure right. Thats chimping, is it not? I did not know a single studio pro who didnt do that at least some of the time.
I don't chimp every shot. We go places and do things. We spend a lot of $$$ to get there. I may not ever get back. Getting the picture right the first time is important. I chimp to check exposure and composition, and above all sharpness! I love that I can do that. I dont do it after every shot, but sometimes Ill sit in the shade and review shots. I dont scratch or make chimp or monkey noises. :lol:
More full disclosure: I use compact cameras that are always in live view. I take full advantage of that. My Nikon P7800 has an electronic viewfinder that I usually have showing everything: histogram, level, and briefly, right after exposure, a freeze-frame of what it got. Thats sort of full-time chimping I guess, and Im not sure any or all DSLRs can do it (mirrorless may be able to). But Im getting instant feedback with my eye to the finder and I think thats wonderful! I still double-check at some point, mostly to insure sharpness. I will sometimes switch to the blinkies view, mostly because I hate blown highlights. Checking every shot is probably overkill, but why not use every tool you have?
Well, I never know when to shut up
:D So what do you think? Is chimping unprofessional, and do you care? (Cuz I dont.) :mrgreen: :lol:
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I just purchased a Hoodman Loupe to make "Chimping" a bit easier during daylight photography. Like others have commented, not done on every shot, only when in doubt due to challenging lighting conditions or moving objects.
I never gave this much thought but ya I look, maybe not every time, certainly not enough to call me Cheetah. I get a kick out of people that say you're missing the moment. It takes literally 1 second to look. Unless I am shooting a boxing match or a plane crash I'd say I'm good.
From what I'm gathering here from the comments, the term "chimp" (meaning to look at the digital camera monitor after a shot while making primitive approval noises) functions as a term of contempt mixed with a sneer, as if to say only the inexperienced, unworthy ones do such a thing while shooting.
As well, the term seems like an expression photographers from the film photography era use to distinguish between behavior in that time and this one, as if to say this time involves a lower standard of photographic behavior.
The digital photography era in fact has developed and offers a multitude of controls to the photographer for gaining a good exposure. How could a competent photographer no matter his experience not use the controls available, including the presented image and its associated information shown in the camera monitor?
For my part, I have occasionally taken pictures under lighting conditions that remain unchanged for a period of time, and figure no need exists to look at the camera monitor to check exposure for each shot. In addition, I take pains to compose the shot in the viewfinder, obviating the review of image composition.
Habitually, I look at the monitor of my camera to determine image exposure information and to confirm camera settings. Others may do as they please in their photography.
Crwiwy wrote:
My understanding is that the term 'Chimping' came from those who - after taking a picture - looked at the screen and made noises like a Chimp.
It is better to chimp than to get home and find something wrong. It is easy to forget to reset things, forget to switch back to auto focus or to forget to switch focus points back from spot to your normal setting. It would be useful if manufacturers would put a button on the back of the camera for a quick reset to favourite settings.
I use Live view for close ups on a tripod when I cannot get my eye to the viewfinder - but I cannot get used to seeing people with an expensive DSLR and holding it at arms length while using the Live view.
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CHOLLY
Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
jerryc41 wrote:
Classic image!
Shows how easy it is to operate Nikon cameras. ;)
CHOLLY
Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
jerryc41 wrote:
Classic image!
Shows how easy it is to operate Nikon cameras. ;)
jerryc41 wrote:
The LCD is there for two purposes, and examining the shot you just took is one of them. That relatively tiny screen is not going to give you the same view as a 27" monitor, but it's better than nothing...
Gosh, there are SO many great responses here...! The consensus remains; almost all of us check the image when it makes sense to do so, and none of us scratch or make noises. Well, sometimes I do. :mrgreen: Thanks again to everybody, and y'all Keep On Chimpin' :!:
I usually chimp. My cameras are all set to over a preview of the previous shot for some seconds (varies with the camera); I usually look at that image, but, if it passes before I view it, I don't worry about it.
f8lee wrote:
As for it being unprofessional, of course it is not - a pro will use whatever tools are available when necessary, and with tricky lighting situations, for instance, where there might be a question about how well the metered exposure worked, to be able to take a look, even with the limitations a JPEG derivation of the raw file entails, can be most useful.
It almost seems like a modern-day version of the argument decades ago that "real" photographers don't need motor drives, because they know the precise moment to release the shutter and didn't need the crutch of getting 8 exposures in a second.
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You guys are hysterical! Who bloodly well CARES if you look like a "professional"? Is that why you are taking pictures, to LOOK professional? Who are you trying to impress? Is a camera the new chick magnet? Aren't you out there trying to capture a moment in time, a face, an object that will never look the same again. So who cares what You look like doing it?
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