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Apr 18, 2012 08:00:11 #
I agree with you. Racist is a concept brought about by ill-considered legislation.
Apr 18, 2012 08:03:13 #
What is really funny, the AD and I were the only white people at the game. We were the minority and we were the ones shaking our heads because he would love to have some photos of his team to show them off and get more girls involved in sports but he can't!
Apr 18, 2012 08:06:28 #
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I admire those Americans who make use of their personal liberties and express their opinions openly whether they are liked or not. Being politically correct is actually very un American. When we exercise our rights we honor those who paid for our freedom with the ultimate sacrifice.
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Apr 18, 2012 08:10:06 #
Apr 18, 2012 08:10:49 #
I totally agree with you, my only objection would be to the radical elements that want to change our way of life, but that is a small minority. If anyone does not want their picture taken, no matter what their religion or race we should respect that right.
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Apr 18, 2012 08:12:44 #
carpediem
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I am speaking that some comments are uneducated. One of the largest public school system in the country doesn't allow pictures of kids. Respect others and it will come out in your photos.You are absolutely correct!
Apr 18, 2012 08:22:15 #
I think there are a lot of perverts out there....so maybe this was not so bad. Better safe than sorry. Glad it all worked out though. On the other hand...seems like a little paranoia might of struck....might have been nice if the women just asked you.
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Apr 18, 2012 08:23:58 #
Many of the Muslims in Detroit are not recent immigrants. The city has had a large population of people from the Middle East since the early part of the 20th Century.
Forget being PC, our society needs to learn to be more respectful. If this had been a team from a Jewish charter school, would you try to schedule the game on the Sabbath? If your team was playing one from the local Catholic high school and the home team is obligated to feed the visitors, would you serve hamburgers on a Friday during Lent? If you were Catholic and your host served you hamburgers on Friday during Lent would you sit in the corner and watch everyone else eat?
Of course the answer is no to each of those questions if you have any kind of respect for your fellow man.
The Muslim charter school insisting on their girls not being photographed is a reasonable request. The US Constitution guarantees them the freedom to worship as they choose and if one of the tenets of their religion is that the girls not be photographed, then so be it.
Forget being PC, our society needs to learn to be more respectful. If this had been a team from a Jewish charter school, would you try to schedule the game on the Sabbath? If your team was playing one from the local Catholic high school and the home team is obligated to feed the visitors, would you serve hamburgers on a Friday during Lent? If you were Catholic and your host served you hamburgers on Friday during Lent would you sit in the corner and watch everyone else eat?
Of course the answer is no to each of those questions if you have any kind of respect for your fellow man.
The Muslim charter school insisting on their girls not being photographed is a reasonable request. The US Constitution guarantees them the freedom to worship as they choose and if one of the tenets of their religion is that the girls not be photographed, then so be it.
Apr 18, 2012 08:25:49 #
Apr 18, 2012 08:28:15 #
When I was asked at the school, who I am, I gladly showed my id, including my corrections id. To prove, I wasn't a pervert or weirdo but this is the first time I ran into something like this. I was at the same school, a couple of years ago for a basketball district and I was free to take pictures of my girls against another team so I never ran into this rule before. It made for an interesting day. I'm glad glad there were no slam, bang plays! no close plays at the plate! Then following the rules would have been tough!
But how would you like to be that poor, proud Daddy with that video cam!
But how would you like to be that poor, proud Daddy with that video cam!
Apr 18, 2012 08:39:49 #
Would it be possible (and acceptable to you) to shoot from an "off property" location? I noticed there is a public street behind the outfield in one of your shots. You also said that the rule applies to "home games". Could you not just go to their next "away" game and shoot to your hearts content? I didn't even know that Muslim girls were allowed to participate in sports..such as softball! Y'see, I'm learning something new here today! We have to balance our beliefs with theirs, wheather we agree with them or not. By shooting pix at the games, you're not breaking any laws..nothing bad will happen to you, but you are saying, loud and clear that "your beliefs and rules are not worthy of my consideration, and I therefore choose to violate them". Just don't go to the game..or leave your camera at home..and wish them all well. Peace to us all..now, let's go shoot some pix! ..just my cents
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Apr 18, 2012 08:43:12 #
I take pictures of my Lady Eagles and I follow them. I wish I could just send the pictures i got of this game to them. Their first baseman made a diving grab of a line drive but it shows her face. It is an awesome shot, but it is their house their rules. Even if they played at your field, I would give them the respect of following their rules!
Apr 18, 2012 08:45:52 #
at the risk of sounded like a bigot...which I hope I am not it has always been my attitude that AMERICA is a great country...People from all over the world come here because of it..I feel lucky that I was born here. So if you come here because it offers you freedom to be here...perhaps it would make sense to ACT AMERICAN.
with that said...i have one more tidbit. I worked in an elementary school for many years. It was at the lower economic scale of the district...so we had a rainbow of colored skins....and many languages were spoken... These end of year assemblies proved very emotional to me...all these little children from different backgrounds raising their voices together.
One assembly at the pledge of allegiance two women in muslum garb did not to stand up with the rest of the audience.....I dont care that they did not pledge the words or hold onto their heart...but couldnt they stand out of respect for the PEOPLE of the country they came to join? I am not religious but when I have to be in a house of worship I stand when everyone else does...I dont know the words so Im quiet. But I am in their house and I show my respect for it.
BIG DAVE...the answer to all those questions as far as I am concerned is not the same as yours.
If I was catholic...which I am not...and my host served hamburgers on lent...and i observed it...I would eat everything on my plate except the meat. RESPECT GOES BOTH WAYS. The only reason the gentiles would not have a game with the jews on a sabbath is cause the jews wouldnt show.
I watched President Clinton I think it was, light the white house christmas tree on the first night of HANUKAH...with christmas still off in the future...I always thought he could have waited a day or two...BUT I DIDNT THROW A HISSY FIT.....CANT PLEASE EVERYONE with so many differences.
finally...to the OP...you will have another chance to shoot your girls playing another team...this was just not the right time.
with that said...i have one more tidbit. I worked in an elementary school for many years. It was at the lower economic scale of the district...so we had a rainbow of colored skins....and many languages were spoken... These end of year assemblies proved very emotional to me...all these little children from different backgrounds raising their voices together.
One assembly at the pledge of allegiance two women in muslum garb did not to stand up with the rest of the audience.....I dont care that they did not pledge the words or hold onto their heart...but couldnt they stand out of respect for the PEOPLE of the country they came to join? I am not religious but when I have to be in a house of worship I stand when everyone else does...I dont know the words so Im quiet. But I am in their house and I show my respect for it.
BIG DAVE...the answer to all those questions as far as I am concerned is not the same as yours.
If I was catholic...which I am not...and my host served hamburgers on lent...and i observed it...I would eat everything on my plate except the meat. RESPECT GOES BOTH WAYS. The only reason the gentiles would not have a game with the jews on a sabbath is cause the jews wouldnt show.
I watched President Clinton I think it was, light the white house christmas tree on the first night of HANUKAH...with christmas still off in the future...I always thought he could have waited a day or two...BUT I DIDNT THROW A HISSY FIT.....CANT PLEASE EVERYONE with so many differences.
finally...to the OP...you will have another chance to shoot your girls playing another team...this was just not the right time.
Apr 18, 2012 08:50:05 #
Here is another question, Jehovah Witness, and other religious don't stand or recite the Pledge of Allegiance or the National Anthem. That is their right under the Constitution, why are Muslims not have that right?
But what about that poor Dad! He is a Muslim, and he has to follow the rules at every game, I really feel sorry for him! He is proud of his daughter but has to follow these rules, every game!
But what about that poor Dad! He is a Muslim, and he has to follow the rules at every game, I really feel sorry for him! He is proud of his daughter but has to follow these rules, every game!
Apr 18, 2012 09:15:20 #
dasloaf wrote:
Here is another question, Jehovah Witness, and other religious don't stand or recite the Pledge of Allegiance or the National Anthem. That is their right under the Constitution, why are Muslims not have that right?
But what about that poor Dad! He is a Muslim, and he has to follow the rules at every game, I really feel sorry for him! He is proud of his daughter but has to follow these rules, every game!
But what about that poor Dad! He is a Muslim, and he has to follow the rules at every game, I really feel sorry for him! He is proud of his daughter but has to follow these rules, every game!
Jehovah Witnesses and others went to jail for not serving. Should we apply that to muslims as well?
The muslims are quick to demand respect but do they show the same for others?
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