My Pet Hate - "Professional" Photographers
Jul 20, 2015 05:38:43 #
Graham Smith wrote:
The reversed baseball cap speaks volumes... around here it is known as an "IQ reducer" :D
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Jul 20, 2015 05:45:41 #
DaveHam
Loc: Reading UK
As a professional I can sympathise with both sides in this.
The professional has a job to do. He probably does not get paid unless he does it to a satisfactory level. I cannot believe he stood there for the duration of the event - so work round him.
Having been both professional and family photographer at these types of event I have never found it impossible not to accommodate all the interests of those around me. If I have to wait ten minutes for the pro to finish, I will. As a pro I would get my shots and move on without taking an undue amount of time.
Perhaps there was a bit of stubbornness on both sides here??????
The professional has a job to do. He probably does not get paid unless he does it to a satisfactory level. I cannot believe he stood there for the duration of the event - so work round him.
Having been both professional and family photographer at these types of event I have never found it impossible not to accommodate all the interests of those around me. If I have to wait ten minutes for the pro to finish, I will. As a pro I would get my shots and move on without taking an undue amount of time.
Perhaps there was a bit of stubbornness on both sides here??????
Jul 20, 2015 05:48:53 #
jimbo70
Loc: Orange Park, FL.
Having shot many weddings I can tell you how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot. The people that hire you expect you to get the best possible shots from the best spot. Over the last few years that I worked I found it more and more difficult because of the armatures and there cell phones/cameras. I won't even begin to tell you about how rude Videographers can be. The guy getting paid should shoot the event from the best spot, that's what he is getting paid for.
Jul 20, 2015 06:00:04 #
Have never had a problem getting a shot at an event. Often see the position of the event Professional as being very limited. I get to enjoy the event and my living doesn't depend it. No pressure only the art and the thrill of the hunt. Stay in place, I will get around it. The addition of the iPhone only makes it better for those times when cameras aren't allowed.
Jul 20, 2015 06:02:36 #
PhotoshooterNJ
Loc: NJ
Db7423 wrote:
What a bummer. But as Jerry said "It's the money, not the spectators". Sorry that you lost all the time and preparation you invested and that it was too late to find another spot. ;)
"Sorry that you lost all the time and preparation you invested"
What about all the time, invested money and advertising the organization invested, does that matter. You asked them to move to one side and he stayed right there in the middle. What happens when he moves to one side or the other and the next person tells him to move. What about all the people that signed up for the event and wanted to look online for a decent photo of themselves shot by the "Professional Photographer" that the event hired. He or she or doing the job that they were hired to do.
Jul 20, 2015 06:02:56 #
Graham Smith wrote:
We don't hold those big white things in fearful awe over here, they carry no weight, (Yes, I know they are heavy) We are more impressed by results than white paint :lol:
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Jul 20, 2015 06:10:29 #
PhotoshooterNJ
Loc: NJ
jimbo70 wrote:
Having shot many weddings I can tell you how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot. The people that hire you expect you to get the best possible shots from the best spot. Over the last few years that I worked I found it more and more difficult because of the armatures and there cell phones/cameras. I won't even begin to tell you about how rude Videographers can be. The guy getting paid should shoot the event from the best spot, that's what he is getting paid for.
Agreed..... :thumbup:
Jul 20, 2015 06:16:22 #
Graham Smith wrote:
The reversed baseball cap speaks volumes... around here it is known as an "IQ reducer" :D
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Jul 20, 2015 06:16:35 #
PhotoshooterNJ
Loc: NJ
Dngallagher wrote:
Now that you have brought it up... br br I do vol... (show quote)
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Jul 20, 2015 06:16:54 #
jkoar wrote:
Use his shoulders as a tripod.
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Jul 20, 2015 06:17:41 #
In my experience at weddings, the hired photographer often has an assistant, whose job it is to deliberately cavort around in front of the couple and their guests pretending to arrange the scene, but actually acting as a "spoiler" preventing anyone else from getting an unobstructed field of view. He'll dodge out of the way for a few moments while the hired photographer takes his shots, and then re-appear until the next arrangement is ready.
Very annoying!
Very annoying!
Jul 20, 2015 06:18:45 #
i do freelance work..and i feel the same way the professional hired photographers feel when they are doing their job..i too experience people that interfere with my shoot..even when i am in a public area to do a personal paid photoshoot i have people jump in front of me thinking they have the right because it is a "public spot" ..People are just plain rude..now I'm not saying you were rude at all but you do have to realize that the paid staff won't care that you were there first..it is their job and they have to get the shots they were hired to do..and I'm sure you could have moved over to somewhere no matter how crowded it was..
Jul 20, 2015 06:28:41 #
oldtigger wrote:
What gave you the impression you had the right to ask the event photographer to move?
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Jul 20, 2015 06:34:20 #
The man was doing his job, making a living and I doubt he got up in the morning thinking let me ruin some one's day.
I now do a lot of freelance work. At the end of the day I hope all the required shots came out, the client is happy, I get paid and I did my job well enough to be hired back in the future. Not to hard to understand.
I do try to get my shots and then get out of the line of fire if possible so the mom and pops can snap a few but if it is a situation where I need to capture everyone or every thing I am sorry if I don't move for you. Unless of course you would like to pay my next few months bills.
I now do a lot of freelance work. At the end of the day I hope all the required shots came out, the client is happy, I get paid and I did my job well enough to be hired back in the future. Not to hard to understand.
I do try to get my shots and then get out of the line of fire if possible so the mom and pops can snap a few but if it is a situation where I need to capture everyone or every thing I am sorry if I don't move for you. Unless of course you would like to pay my next few months bills.
Jul 20, 2015 06:45:22 #
Graham Smith wrote:
It would be common courtesy to allow parents a moment to photograph their own children.
If a PAID photographer gave every parent a moment to photograph their own child or children, then the PAID phtographer would be so busy allowing others to get shots that he/she would not get his/her own and would no longer be a PAID photographer. They are paid for a reason and the reason is to get the shots that they consider important. As a (usually) paid photographer, I completely understand their point of view. I have been on both sides and I understand your concern but, you were not the one being paid to get a job done. Many times, I have been privaliged to be at "special" events and had to concentrate on getting the shot. The one thing I can say about your situation is that I do wish that many of the events that I shot provided specially marked vests for the photographers so that they wouldn't constantly be harrased by security checking passes and event viewers complaing that they were out in front.
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