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Jul 20, 2015 06:53:24   #
Gary Truchelut Loc: Coldspring, TX
 
Looks to me, from the picture you posted that if you had used a good telephoto or zoom lens, you could have gotten some good shots without the official photographer in them. I would have set my camera to high speed drive and continuous focus mode and held the shutter button down as my relative came over the top. Maybe would have gotten some good close up shots.

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Jul 20, 2015 07:01:24   #
David Kay Loc: Arlington Heights IL
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Now that you have brought it up...

I do volunteer photography for the local Special Olympics organization here in Delaware, and I can tell you for sure the feeling goes both ways ;)

Even though I have the credentials displayed as an official photographer, often the shots that I am there to obtain are ruined by iPad/Iphone shooters trying to get in and get shots, some are actually so rude that they step directly in front of my camera when they can clearly see that I am taking a shot that was planned and the kids were posing for.

In my opinion, it only takes a little common sense and courtesy to notice that there are others there trying to get pictures, unfortunately it seems parents lose all common sense in their attempts to get their private pictures at public events.

I normally try to get the shot that I am there for, then move out of the way as best I can, so others can get a shot without me in the frame, however, the way some parents try to crowd in and force their way to what they consider the best spot is like a feeding frenzy, and then I can no longer get a decent shot because now someone else has grabbed the spot that I had staked out and are blocking the entire scene.

That is part of the reason only credentialed people/staff are allowed past a certain point.

This all is my pet peeve :)
Now that you have brought it up... br br I do vol... (show quote)




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Jul 20, 2015 07:02:58   #
Jcmarino
 
He was probably doing just what he was paid to do.

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Jul 20, 2015 07:10:48   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
johneccles wrote:
Here in the UK we have the right to ask anyone do any thing within reason. For instance if some one blocks my driveway I can ask him to move his car etc, if someone throws an empty can in my garden I can ask him to pick it up, or if a neighbour is playing loud music I can ask that the noise is turned down.
In this case I simply asked the photographer to move a couple of feet to the left, which he did not comply, in fact I am certain he he stayed there in that spot on purpose to annoy me which he he did of course.
What the position is in the US is I do not know or care except it appears you can't take photos of many public buildings, many famous bridges etc without police harassment. I am due to visit the US in a few I am thinking about not taking a camera.
Anyway you are welcome to visit the UK whenever you want, you don't to pay any money, you simply walk in, you make all the requests you want, take photos of anything, and feel free to enjoy yourself the police will not harass you.
THAT IS WHY I HAVE THE RIGHT so don't make such stupid remarks!!!
Here in the UK we have the right to ask anyone do ... (show quote)


Yes, you have the right but when you purchase a ticket to an event, even in the UK, you give up that right. Read the disclaimers on the tickets.. You are not allowed to go into a concert and take photos of the bands or entertainers.. Sure it happens but if you get caught, you can be forced to give up your memory card, film or camera. This is two fold, the event has the financial right to sell photographs, in addition, if you are shooting flash in a concert, the flash can, in the least, be distracting and could reduce the view of special lighting effects for other PAYING customers that also have the right to enjoy the event. Yes, the examples you gave are the same rights that people in the United States have. If someone dumps trash in my yard (and I know who it was) I have the right to ask, even file charges against, the culpret. If a person is playing music too loud or blocks my drive, I have the right to ask them to turn it down or move the item blocking my drive. However, I give up that right in an area that I paid to get into.. those rights are the same here as they are in the UK. If you want to test my theory, try walking in to Buckingham Palace and claiming that you have the right. Try entering a museum without paying. Just because you have the RIGHT to own a camera doesn't mean that other have to give up their rights to you. A paid photographer is a part of the event staff and has different rights than people attending the event, whether the people paid to enter the event or not. Bring your camera to the United States. Yes there are buildings that you are not allowed to photograph in and there are more that photography is allowed but flash is restricted or not alllowed. I have even shot both flash and non-flash in the US Capitol, the Smithsonian, the (old) World Trade Center, and many many other landmarks. I have also been refused the ability to take photos in the Alamo ( privately owned by the Daughters of the Alamo) and other private buildings. In addition, because of certain terrorist events, we all have to be aware that security is different now that it was pre-911. Often times, while taking photos, others are looking at you and wondering if the photo you are taking is because you are a tourist or because you have evil intent. But, since we are a free country, we try to limit the restrictions.
Now, I don't know what part of the United States you are visiting, but I would guess that no matter where it is, you will want to have the camera. There is far more to photograph here that things that are restricted. It is just that the restricted things are the ones that get the press. Welcome to America and if you are in the Tampa Bay Florida area let me ( and probably a few other hedgehoggers) know and we will point you to many areas of photgraphic interest.

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Jul 20, 2015 07:24:49   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
I always get permission from some official at these events. It appears from your photo that you could have gone up right beside him as he was the only person standing that close. If there was a barrier between him and you then that's why you ask permission from an official before hand so that you can go around crowd barrier and take your shots. I do this all the time and rarely get refused permission. However, in this case I would have knelt down so others could see behind me. My bad.

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Jul 20, 2015 07:56:35   #
ValliPride Loc: Lost in Florida
 
During the 4 of July a good friend of mine got married. He ask would I bring my camera to snap a few shots! He did have a pro photographer their.
I got to the church early picked my spot on the aisle, 30 min after his photographer arrived and sat right behind me. I gave plenty of room and respect since he was being paid. As the Bride was walking she was blocking any one from getting any clean shots. I got a few.
Now as the Limo gets to the reception hall a get a few photos the photographer did not even arrive yet! Now he arrives for the photos outside the Limo. I have my to friend posses and getting the shot.
He comes up to me and said and I quote" you are a Real opportunist"
My comment " Do you have a problem with it. Come and get Some"
I am 6 foot 255 lbs, my Buddy just returned today from Hawaii and loves my photos. My camera was put away, and I had a great time Dancing and did not have to watch over the D810

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Jul 20, 2015 08:07:25   #
Joecosentino Loc: Whitesboro, New York
 
johneccles wrote:
Yesterday I went to a Cancer Fund raising event, in which my daughter was competing.
I got to the event in ample time to find a good spot to stand at the end which had some good views of a "Mud Chute"
About 20 minutes later this official photographer arrived and stationed himself and his equipment exactly in front of me ruining my point of view.
I asked him to move to one side but he just looked at me and completely ignored my request, I also couldn't move as the event was now very crowded.
I have experienced this before and cannot believe how very rude and inconsiderate this clan of so called professional people can be to their fellow photographers.
It was so bad that this photographer!! appeared in almost every shot I took.
I gave up so didn't get a photo of my daughter thanks to him.
Yesterday I went to a Cancer Fund raising event, i... (show quote)

He wasn't rude, he is hired to get the shots. And that's where he has to be to get clutter free shots. I have shot mud runs and motocross. We are given access to the area where spectators can't be so we can get the photos requested by the organizer

What lens did you have, most likely to get anything but a snapshot at an event like this you would need a 400mms. And with that lenses you. Would be shooting around the event photographer.

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Jul 20, 2015 08:14:17   #
Ralloh Loc: Ohio
 
Graham Smith wrote:
It would be common courtesy to allow parents a moment to photograph their own children.


Oh really? Potentially, everyone coming down the slide could be someone's kid. You would expect the professional "paid" photographer to just step aside for all of them with his thumb up his rear doing nothing? That is not what he is being paid for.

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Jul 20, 2015 08:19:07   #
jfn007 Loc: Close to the middle of nowhere.
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Next time one will get upset because an event photographer (like a wedding) is in the way.

Sorry folks, the guy is paid to get the right pictures* not to cater to foolish individuals who think they have rights because they carry a camera in order to take their own pictures.

The notion of 'official' 'professional' photographer is now under attack? Get a life.

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* Not just one by the way.


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Jul 20, 2015 08:21:12   #
Ralloh Loc: Ohio
 
johneccles wrote:
Here in the UK we have the right to ask anyone do any thing within reason. For instance if some one blocks my driveway I can ask him to move his car etc, if someone throws an empty can in my garden I can ask him to pick it up, or if a neighbour is playing loud music I can ask that the noise is turned down.
In this case I simply asked the photographer to move a couple of feet to the left, which he did not comply, in fact I am certain he he stayed there in that spot on purpose to annoy me which he he did of course.
What the position is in the US is I do not know or care except it appears you can't take photos of many public buildings, many famous bridges etc without police harassment. I am due to visit the US in a few I am thinking about not taking a camera.
Anyway you are welcome to visit the UK whenever you want, you don't to pay any money, you simply walk in, you make all the requests you want, take photos of anything, and feel free to enjoy yourself the police will not harass you.
THAT IS WHY I HAVE THE RIGHT so don't make such stupid remarks!!!
Here in the UK we have the right to ask anyone do ... (show quote)


Bad examples. No one is "paid" to park their car in front of your driveway, throw a can in your garden, or crank up their music too loud. As to the cops here, I have never been harassed by them for any reason. That is just sensational bs you're reading there in the UK.

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Jul 20, 2015 08:27:36   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Graham Smith wrote:
The reversed baseball cap speaks volumes... around here it is known as an "IQ reducer" :D


Well Graham - we don't know why the pro photog needed a head covering - but accept that he did? We do know that a baseball cap needs to be reversed when taking pics, for the same reason that Hollywood submarine skippers reversed their peaked caps when viewing through a periscope. :-)

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Jul 20, 2015 08:31:25   #
Past Pro Loc: Spring Hill, Florida
 
jkoar wrote:
Use his shoulders as a tripod.


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Jul 20, 2015 08:48:34   #
DVJ
 
The event photographer has first dibs. Judging by the photo enclosed, there was plenty of room for Dad to get just as good a shot as the event photographer.

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Jul 20, 2015 08:50:27   #
gonzo.3800
 
Semi Pro and volunteer for several 503's I always ask before I step in front of someone. 99% of the time problem solved. I also back out as soon as possible and say thank you. Gonzo

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Jul 20, 2015 09:15:09   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
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ValliPride wrote:
During the 4 of July a good friend of mine got married. He ask would I bring my camera to snap a few shots! He did have a pro photographer their.
I got to the church early picked my spot on the aisle, 30 min after his photographer arrived and sat right behind me. I gave plenty of room and respect since he was being paid. As the Bride was walking she was blocking any one from getting any clean shots. I got a few.
Now as the Limo gets to the reception hall a get a few photos the photographer did not even arrive yet! Now he arrives for the photos outside the Limo. I have my to friend posses and getting the shot.
He comes up to me and said and I quote" you are a Real opportunist"
My comment " Do you have a problem with it. Come and get Some"
I am 6 foot 255 lbs, my Buddy just returned today from Hawaii and loves my photos. My camera was put away, and I had a great time Dancing and did not have to watch over the D810
During the 4 of July a good friend of mine got mar... (show quote)


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