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Jul 19, 2015 06:47:55   #
johneccles Loc: Leyland UK
 
Yesterday I went to a Cancer Fund raising event, in which my daughter was competing.
I got to the event in ample time to find a good spot to stand at the end which had some good views of a "Mud Chute"
About 20 minutes later this official photographer arrived and stationed himself and his equipment exactly in front of me ruining my point of view.
I asked him to move to one side but he just looked at me and completely ignored my request, I also couldn't move as the event was now very crowded.
I have experienced this before and cannot believe how very rude and inconsiderate this clan of so called professional people can be to their fellow photographers.
It was so bad that this photographer!! appeared in almost every shot I took.
I gave up so didn't get a photo of my daughter thanks to him.

My Pet Hate
My Pet Hate...

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Jul 19, 2015 06:54:40   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
johneccles wrote:
It was so bad that this photographer!! appeared in almost every shot I took.
I gave up so didn't get a photo of my daughter thanks to him.

They have the bright vest and - THE POWER! I would talk to the people running the event. They hired the photographer and told him what to do. I'm sure his shots will be used in publications to raise money. It's the money, not the spectators, that the organizers care about.

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Jul 19, 2015 06:57:55   #
jkoar Loc: The Gunks, NY
 
Use his shoulders as a tripod.

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Jul 19, 2015 07:36:29   #
Db7423 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
What a bummer. But as Jerry said "It's the money, not the spectators". Sorry that you lost all the time and preparation you invested and that it was too late to find another spot. ;)

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Jul 19, 2015 08:09:20   #
krl48 Loc: NY, PA now SC
 
Hey, it's a "dog eat dog world out there". The OP is confusing "hate" for "envy" over the official photographer's privileged positioning.

The official photographer has a job to do. Like it or not, he's been granted access to the best locations for shooting and the rest of us are just spectators with cameras or smart phones.

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Jul 19, 2015 08:14:52   #
Capture48 Loc: Arizona
 
johneccles wrote:
Yesterday I went to a Cancer Fund raising event, in which my daughter was competing.
I got to the event in ample time to find a good spot to stand at the end which had some good views of a "Mud Chute"
About 20 minutes later this official photographer arrived and stationed himself and his equipment exactly in front of me ruining my point of view.
I asked him to move to one side but he just looked at me and completely ignored my request, I also couldn't move as the event was now very crowded.
I have experienced this before and cannot believe how very rude and inconsiderate this clan of so called professional people can be to their fellow photographers.
It was so bad that this photographer!! appeared in almost every shot I took.
I gave up so didn't get a photo of my daughter thanks to him.
Yesterday I went to a Cancer Fund raising event, i... (show quote)


As a hired photog, I've done this many times. Normally they set aside space for us and rope it off, and too bad if you set up with a view of me. I really don't feel too bad about it either. Recreational photogs tend to not know what they are doing and constantly ask advice while I am on a paid shoot. I don't mind helping when I have time, but not in the middle of a shoot. Oh, and why in the world would I need to get there early when space is set aside for me with security protecting it? Not sure if this is your case, but if you see space reserved, set up close to it, but not where you will be blocked by people in that space.

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Jul 19, 2015 08:14:52   #
Capture48 Loc: Arizona
 
johneccles wrote:
Yesterday I went to a Cancer Fund raising event, in which my daughter was competing.
I got to the event in ample time to find a good spot to stand at the end which had some good views of a "Mud Chute"
About 20 minutes later this official photographer arrived and stationed himself and his equipment exactly in front of me ruining my point of view.
I asked him to move to one side but he just looked at me and completely ignored my request, I also couldn't move as the event was now very crowded.
I have experienced this before and cannot believe how very rude and inconsiderate this clan of so called professional people can be to their fellow photographers.
It was so bad that this photographer!! appeared in almost every shot I took.
I gave up so didn't get a photo of my daughter thanks to him.
Yesterday I went to a Cancer Fund raising event, i... (show quote)


As a hired photog, I've done this many times. Normally they set aside space for us and rope it off, and too bad if you set up with a view of me. I really don't feel too bad about it either. Recreational photogs tend to not know what they are doing and constantly ask advice while I am on a paid shoot. I don't mind helping when I have time, but not in the middle of a shoot. Oh, and why in the world would I need to get there early when space is set aside for me with security protecting it? Not sure if this is your case, but if you see space reserved, set up close to it, but not where you will be blocked by people in that space.

However I probably would have tried to ask you her number and get the shot for you and provided you a copy, its just good manners. I've also invited photogs into the roped off are to get the shot they wanted or needed, providing it was not already crowded in there.

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Jul 19, 2015 08:16:45   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
johneccles wrote:
Yesterday I went to a Cancer Fund raising event, in which my daughter was competing.
I got to the event in ample time to find a good spot to stand at the end which had some good views of a "Mud Chute"
About 20 minutes later this official photographer arrived and stationed himself and his equipment exactly in front of me ruining my point of view.
I asked him to move to one side but he just looked at me and completely ignored my request, I also couldn't move as the event was now very crowded.
I have experienced this before and cannot believe how very rude and inconsiderate this clan of so called professional people can be to their fellow photographers.
It was so bad that this photographer!! appeared in almost every shot I took.
I gave up so didn't get a photo of my daughter thanks to him.
Yesterday I went to a Cancer Fund raising event, i... (show quote)


Now that you have brought it up...

I do volunteer photography for the local Special Olympics organization here in Delaware, and I can tell you for sure the feeling goes both ways ;)

Even though I have the credentials displayed as an official photographer, often the shots that I am there to obtain are ruined by iPad/Iphone shooters trying to get in and get shots, some are actually so rude that they step directly in front of my camera when they can clearly see that I am taking a shot that was planned and the kids were posing for.

In my opinion, it only takes a little common sense and courtesy to notice that there are others there trying to get pictures, unfortunately it seems parents lose all common sense in their attempts to get their private pictures at public events.

I normally try to get the shot that I am there for, then move out of the way as best I can, so others can get a shot without me in the frame, however, the way some parents try to crowd in and force their way to what they consider the best spot is like a feeding frenzy, and then I can no longer get a decent shot because now someone else has grabbed the spot that I had staked out and are blocking the entire scene.

That is part of the reason only credentialed people/staff are allowed past a certain point.

This all is my pet peeve :)

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Jul 19, 2015 08:18:37   #
Capture48 Loc: Arizona
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Now that you have brought it up...

I do volunteer photography for the local Special Olympics organization here in Delaware, and I can tell you for sure the feeling goes both ways ;)

Even though I have the credentials displayed as an official photographer, often the shots that I am there to obtain are ruined by iPad/Iphone shooters trying to get in and get shots, some are actually so rude that they step directly in front of my camera when they can clearly see that I am taking a shot that was planned and the kids were posing for.

In my opinion, it only takes a little common sense and courtesy to notice that there are others there trying to get pictures, unfortunately it seems parents lose all common sense in their attempts to get their private pictures at public events.

I normally try to get the shot that I am there for, then move out of the way as best I can, so others can get a shot without me in the frame, however, the way some parents try to crowd in and force their way to what they consider the best spot is like a feeding frenzy, and then I can no longer get a decent shot because now someone else has grabbed the spot that I had staked out and are blocking the entire scene.

That is part of the reason only credentialed people/staff are allowed past a certain point.

This all is my pet peeve :)
Now that you have brought it up... br br I do vol... (show quote)


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Jul 19, 2015 08:35:42   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Next time one will get upset because an event photographer (like a wedding) is in the way.

Sorry folks, the guy is paid to get the right pictures* not to cater to foolish individuals who think they have rights because they carry a camera in order to take their own pictures.

The notion of 'official' 'professional' photographer is now under attack? Get a life.

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* Not just one by the way.

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Jul 19, 2015 08:47:54   #
jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
krl48 wrote:
Hey, it's a "dog eat dog world out there". The OP is confusing "hate" for "envy" over the official photographer's privileged positioning.

The official photographer has a job to do. Like it or not, he's been granted access to the best locations for shooting and the rest of us are just spectators with cameras or smart phones.


Having a job to do does not allow rude.

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Jul 19, 2015 08:55:23   #
Graham Smith Loc: Cambridgeshire UK
 
johneccles wrote:
Yesterday I went to a Cancer Fund raising event, in which my daughter was competing.
I got to the event in ample time to find a good spot to stand at the end which had some good views of a "Mud Chute"
About 20 minutes later this official photographer arrived and stationed himself and his equipment exactly in front of me ruining my point of view.
I asked him to move to one side but he just looked at me and completely ignored my request, I also couldn't move as the event was now very crowded.
I have experienced this before and cannot believe how very rude and inconsiderate this clan of so called professional people can be to their fellow photographers.
It was so bad that this photographer!! appeared in almost every shot I took.
I gave up so didn't get a photo of my daughter thanks to him.
Yesterday I went to a Cancer Fund raising event, i... (show quote)


The reversed baseball cap speaks volumes... around here it is known as an "IQ reducer" :D

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Jul 19, 2015 08:59:09   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
johneccles wrote:
... official photographer arrived and stationed himself and his equipment exactly in front of me ruining my point of view....I asked him to move to one side but he ... ignored my request, ...... cannot believe how very rude and inconsiderate this clan of so called professional people can be to their fellow photographers....

What gave you the impression you had the right to ask the event photographer to move?

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Jul 19, 2015 09:10:50   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
oldtigger wrote:
What gave you the impression you had the right to ask the event photographer to move?


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Jul 19, 2015 09:33:49   #
krl48 Loc: NY, PA now SC
 
oldtigger wrote:
What gave you the impression you had the right to ask the event photographer to move?



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