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Feb 14, 2015 13:56:20   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Great advice. I will take it. Thanks

burkphoto wrote:
Among the cameras I started with is an Instamatic 104. I still have it in my collection, along with my first Argus, several other box cameras, and three of the original Polaroids. (I caught the photography bug when I was five, and never lost it.)

I hope I didn't seem to be making light of your first effort. That was not my intention.

EVERY first effort is a learning experience. I've learned that the more shocking it is, the more I learn from it! It's not always fun, but always, always, useful and memorable.

I have been behind the camera and in the lab enough to have seen a bit of everything. As an AV producer back in the 1980s, when corporate, computer-controlled slide shows were popular (and my job to produce), I photographed all sorts of setups, from machinery, to toys, to food, to flat art, and because I worked in a portrait lab, people.

I studied lighting from Dean Collins, a master who is no longer with us, but whose FineLight works are still relevant. Later, I helped transition a portrait lab from 100% optical processes to 100% digital processes, moving from film and optical printers to servers, Mac and PC networks, and laser printer mini-labs and inkjet printers.

If you dive into photography head first, it will be daunting. But if you learn to swim in it, it can be fun. I'm a training content developer now, and it's just one of the tools I use. But it's still my first love.

My best observation: If you concentrate on the principles, you will learn to make great images with any gear, and to appreciate whatever gear you have to work with. Good luck!
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Feb 14, 2015 14:00:26   #
Racin17 Loc: Western Pa
 
Tracy B. wrote:
Well, here it is, one from my dreaded food shoot:
Also two of my Granddaughter:


Very nice photos of grand daugther. Food shot looks good imho. i see it being a real shot. I know advertised food shots are made to look better than they reslly are. Your shot shows what it will be. Kudos for taking the shots. Never say you would never do something again Lol. Good job

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Feb 14, 2015 14:01:54   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
OMG! You made me so happy. I won't I promise.

Racin17 wrote:
Very nice photos of grand daugther. Food shot looks good imho. i see it being a real shot. I know advertised food shots are made to look better than they reslly are. Your shot shows what it will be. Kudos for taking the shots. Never say you would never do something again Lol. Good job

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Feb 14, 2015 14:02:13   #
meredith a Loc: N. California
 
I did as a gift engagement photos and wedding photos plus I put together a music video with the wedding photos for the same long-time "friend" I was scared to death. She and hubby loved everything and could not thank me enough and we are still great friends. So I would say, "never say never."

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Feb 14, 2015 14:03:47   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
I'm so glad it worked out for you. You are brave.

meredith a wrote:
I did as a gift engagement photos and wedding photos plus I put together a music video with the wedding photos for the same long-time "friend" I was scared to death. She and hubby loved everything and could not thank me enough and we are still great friends. So I would say, "never say never."

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Feb 14, 2015 14:05:20   #
Racin17 Loc: Western Pa
 
Tracy B. wrote:
OMG! You made me so happy. I won't I promise.


Good...happy to do so....look forward to seeing more of your work.

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Feb 14, 2015 14:21:06   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Tracy B. wrote:
Earlier I posted a picture of the "food"(page5)also two of my Granddaughter, if anyone is interested.


Tracy, your food shots look fine. It's the food that looks dead and inedible! :lol: They should be quite happy with it. Could you have been set up for top-down shooting, might have had a different dimension to it.
Unfortunately chefs/cooks have NO training in food styling. Food styling takes just as much training as becoming a chef!!!
If they were smart, they would dump the food shots and just put in the shots of your granddaughter, she looks so much more delicious!! :lol: :lol:
SS

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Feb 14, 2015 14:31:39   #
meredith a Loc: N. California
 
Tracy B. wrote:
I'm so glad it worked out for you. You are brave.


Your photos are wonderful.

Not sure if I was brave or foolish but it did work out and happy to do a friend a favor. By the way I used a point and shoot camera. Lol

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Feb 14, 2015 14:34:57   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Lol! I was standing on a stool, but it would have been better higher.

SharpShooter wrote:
Tracy, your food shots look fine. It's the food that looks dead and inedible! :lol: They should be quite happy with it. Could you have been set up for top-down shooting, might have had a different dimension to it.
Unfortunately chefs/cooks have NO training in food styling. Food styling takes just as much training as becoming a chef!!!
If they were smart, they would dump the food shots and just put in the shots of your granddaughter, she looks so much more delicious!! :lol: :lol:
SS
Tracy, your food shots look fine. It's the food th... (show quote)


:lol: :lol:

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Feb 14, 2015 14:37:18   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
OMG! You did not use a point and shoot! (Just Kidding). Thanks for the complement. It really has made me loosen up a little.

meredith a wrote:
Your photos are wonderful.

Not sure if I was brave or foolish but it did work out and happy to do a friend a favor. By the way I used a point and shoot camera. Lol

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Feb 14, 2015 14:44:04   #
Jim Peters Loc: Pittsburgh
 
Tracy B. wrote:
This is something I'm not interested in. I would never see it as an opportunity, but as a chore. I only want to shoot what interests me.

As A Full Time Studio Owner I Can Tell You That About 80% Of The Things That I Shoot Are Things That I'm Not Interested in. However That's What Pays The Bills.. It Is Also The Real Challenge Of Being In Photography As A Business. It Also Allows Me The Cash Flow To Pursue The Things That I Am Interested.In This Case Even Though You Weren't Prepared. The Important Thing , Was The Customer Happy?Did You Get Paid? I Would Learn From This And Move On.You May Be Able To Use The Food Shots For Portfolio Material. Samples To Pursue More Work Like This.As Far As Being Satisfied On Your End,View Everything In A Positive Light.

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Feb 14, 2015 14:45:48   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Good Advice.

Jim Peters wrote:
As A Full Time Studio Owner I Can Tell You That About 80% Of The Things That I Shoot Are Things That I'm Not Interested in. However That's What Pays The Bills.. It Is Also The Real Challenge Of Being In Photography As A Business. It Also Allows Me The Cash Flow To Pursue The Things That I Am Interested.In This Case Even Though You Weren't Prepared. The Important Thing , Was The Customer Happy?Did You Get Paid? I Would Learn From This And Move On.You May Be Able To Use The Food Shots For Portfolio Material. Samples To Pursue More Work Like This.As Far As Being Satisfied On Your End,View Everything In A Positive Light.
As A Full Time Studio Owner I Can Tell You That Ab... (show quote)


:-D

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Feb 14, 2015 14:58:52   #
Boone Loc: Groundhog Town USA
 
Capture48 wrote:
I doubt many photographers have entered this business that have not made many of these same mistakes. I myself made quite a few of the standard ones like this. Shooting for friends, shooting without getting money up front, shooting with no contract. All these mistakes I have made, and thats why I can suggest you don't do it again.

As long as you learn from the experience, and not just the business stuff, but the photography stuff as well it will have been worth it.



:thumbup: Boone.

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Feb 14, 2015 15:11:26   #
Jim Peters Loc: Pittsburgh
 
Thank You.Also Keep In Mind That A Restaurant Can Be A Very Good Avenue For Other Business. It's Called Cross Marketing.Are There Events At The Restaurant That You Could Photograph?When Was The Last Time The Owner Had A Family Group Shot?If Their All Involved In The Business,Wouldn't It Be Cool To Shoot Them In The Restaurant During Off Hours. Any High School Seniors In The Family? Future Brides?Networking With His Family And Yes Patrons. Once You Deliver For A Happy Customer The Results Can Be Endless Repeat Business Via Networking.

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Feb 14, 2015 15:15:00   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Funny you mentioned this. My Husband is in a band with one of the owners of the Bar/Restaurant. I took some photos of them playing out, just for my Husband, and they liked them so much that is how I got this job. They like my photos better than the person they hired for the gig.

Jim Peters wrote:
Thank You.Also Keep In Mind That A Restaurant Can Be A Very Good Avenue For Other Business. It's Called Cross Marketing.Are There Events At The Restaurant That You Could Photograph?When Was The Last Time The Owner Had A Family Group Shot?If Their All Involved In The Business,Wouldn't It Be Cool To Shoot Them In The Restaurant During Off Hours. Any High School Seniors In The Family? Future Brides?Networking With His Family And Yes Patrons. Once You Deliver For A Happy Customer The Results Can Be Endless Repeat Business Via Networking.
Thank You.Also Keep In Mind That A Restaurant Can ... (show quote)

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