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Feb 14, 2015 12:40:18   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Tracy B. wrote:
My first paid photography job. I was told I would be taking some interior pictures of a bar/restaurant. Well, I walk in and am told I will be doing pictures of their menu items. The Chef will be prepairing each dish and I'm to take pictures of each item. Let me set the sceen. DARK bar! Food Photography, I've read is the hardest to photograph. I have no practice at food photography. I haven't even tried. I'm not interested it that at all. OMG! I will never do anything like that again.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSd0keSj2W8

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Feb 14, 2015 12:44:40   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Very interesting. Thanks for posting the video.


rmalarz wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSd0keSj2W8

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Feb 14, 2015 12:46:19   #
tomeveritt Loc: Fla. + Ga,NY,Va,Md,SC
 
rochephoto & burkphoto took the time to help & warn you that making money in photography requires the same level of knowledge, dedication, and learning that it takes to make money doing anything. If you have a "Burning Desire" to be "Pro", go for it, and if your specialty is to be Food, become the Best at Food, google foodphotography for a starter. :idea:

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Feb 14, 2015 12:49:14   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
I realize that they took the time to help. What exactly are you inferring?

tomeveritt wrote:
rochephoto & burkphoto took the time to help & warn you that making money in photography requires the same level of knowledge, dedication, and learning that it takes to make money doing anything. If you have a "Burning Desire" to be "Pro", go for it, and if your specialty is to be Food, become the Best at Food, google foodphotography for a starter. :idea:

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Feb 14, 2015 12:51:39   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
I'd like to see one of your pictures. I bet they're wonderful.

rochephoto wrote:
I've been doing advertising photography for over 30 years. I mean big jobs. Catalogs ,page ads,etc. I went through 6 years of school and got 2 degrees.With the advent of digital photography, clients and novices alike somehow think this is easy!! Well, it ain't!!!! I spent years perfecting my craft and learning business and marketing. You can't fix everything in photoshop. Trying going to work as an assistant for someone established or take courses at a reputable school( and I don't mean some online video by some guy who has anointed himself a star photographer) You learn this business by doing. At a school or as an apprentice you can learn without exposing yourself or your client to mistakes. Real professionals can't make mistakes. Without a real commitment you'll always be a novice.
I've been doing advertising photography for over 3... (show quote)

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Feb 14, 2015 12:54:19   #
shelty Loc: Medford, OR
 
Tracy B. wrote:
My first paid photography job. I was told I would be taking some interior pictures of a bar/restaurant. Well, I walk in and am told I will be doing pictures of their menu items. The Chef will be prepairing each dish and I'm to take pictures of each item. Let me set the sceen. DARK bar! Food Photography, I've read is the hardest to photograph. I have no practice at food photography. I haven't even tried. I'm not interested it that at all. OMG! I will never do anything like that again.


I have found too often, the client doesn't tell you what what they really want until you get there.

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Feb 14, 2015 12:55:14   #
James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)
 
Written Contract of WHAT, Where and How - In firm well understood language .. And IF they wish something else.... Another time and another Contract.

Do Not sway from the principle job description.


Food photography can be difficult and requires lighting that only take practice. You might make a large portable "Light-Box" and place flash strobes in different areas to achieve the desired effects. This takes time and Practice.

I have, and do, "product photography".... anyone can do this... However, it takes practice before you commit to an "on-location" shoot.

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Feb 14, 2015 12:57:19   #
tomeveritt Loc: Fla. + Ga,NY,Va,Md,SC
 
I apologize, I was not inferring anything, my wording was wrong, I was just throwing out some dumb advice. My work is on my website, just click on my name. You seem like an excited Person, I didn't mean to dampen your excitement.

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Feb 14, 2015 12:58:23   #
James R. Kyle Loc: Saint Louis, Missouri (A Suburb of Ferguson)
 
rochephoto wrote:
I've been doing advertising photography for over 30 years. I mean big jobs. Catalogs ,page ads,etc. I went through 6 years of school and got 2 degrees.With the advent of digital photography, clients and novices alike somehow think this is easy!! Well, it ain't!!!! I spent years perfecting my craft and learning business and marketing. You can't fix everything in photoshop. Trying going to work as an assistant for someone established or take courses at a reputable school( and I don't mean some online video by some guy who has anointed himself a star photographer) You learn this business by doing. At a school or as an apprentice you can learn without exposing yourself or your client to mistakes. Real professionals can't make mistakes. Without a real commitment you'll always be a novice.
I've been doing advertising photography for over 3... (show quote)

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Great advice.... ;-)

For ANYONE.

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Feb 14, 2015 13:00:33   #
rochephoto
 
Those are great quotes! I'm sure they're useful in self-help situations. I just hope the person removing my appendix is working on more than a wing and a prayer. This is a business!!
You and your client deserve more.... The medium of photography HAS changed, but the tenets have not! It may be easier to have an image appear before your eyes, but that just moves the bar higher in another area of the business. After 30 plus years I am not a Ludite wishing to have film back Having a match needle meter in your camera is nothing if you don't understand the principles of it's use. Just because it's easier to make an image appear doesn't make you an expert. I tell the classes that come by my studio every semester that photography is just a part of what I do.

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Feb 14, 2015 13:06:51   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Your pictures are beautiful! OMG, I bet you have so much fun. Anyone who can capture an image like that has to be having fun. I really do love photography. I think back to when I first bought my camera and me now. I have grown leeps, however, I have a long way you go.

tomeveritt wrote:
I apologize, I was not inferring anything, my wording was wrong, I was just throwing out some dumb advice. My work is on my website, just click on my name. You seem like an excited Person, I didn't mean to dampen your excitement.

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Feb 14, 2015 13:12:37   #
tomeveritt Loc: Fla. + Ga,NY,Va,Md,SC
 
Thank You, this old man says things sometimes that come out wrong, good luck and keep that enthusiasm. :thumbup:

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Feb 14, 2015 13:13:20   #
rochephoto
 
I'm sorry if I have sounded like a curmudgeon. I don't wish to dash anyones dreams. Many people paint and draw and never sell a picture. If your love of the medium is strong enough it will reward you in many ways. Success and enjoyment does not always come with a cash reward.

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Feb 14, 2015 13:39:36   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Earlier I posted a picture of the "food"(page5)also two of my Granddaughter, if anyone is interested.

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Feb 14, 2015 13:53:19   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Tracy B. wrote:
You really sound like you know what your talking about. It makes my attempt seem like I used a old Instamatic. (LOL)


Among the cameras I started with is an Instamatic 104. I still have it in my collection, along with my first Argus, several other box cameras, and three of the original Polaroids. (I caught the photography bug when I was five, and never lost it.)

I hope I didn't seem to be making light of your first effort. That was not my intention.

EVERY first effort is a learning experience. I've learned that the more shocking it is, the more I learn from it! It's not always fun, but always, always, useful and memorable.

I have been behind the camera and in the lab enough to have seen a bit of everything. As an AV producer back in the 1980s, when corporate, computer-controlled slide shows were popular (and my job to produce), I photographed all sorts of setups, from machinery, to toys, to food, to flat art, and because I worked in a portrait lab, people.

I studied lighting from Dean Collins, a master who is no longer with us, but whose FineLight works are still relevant. Later, I helped transition a portrait lab from 100% optical processes to 100% digital processes, moving from film and optical printers to servers, Mac and PC networks, and laser printer mini-labs and inkjet printers.

If you dive into photography head first, it will be daunting. But if you learn to swim in it, it can be fun. I'm a training content developer now, and it's just one of the tools I use. But it's still my first love.

My best observation: If you concentrate on the principles, you will learn to make great images with any gear, and to appreciate whatever gear you have to work with. Good luck!

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