Opinions (Page 10): really, try for once, not being defensive and just accept the fact of the matter.

wj cody Loc: springfield illinois

TheDman wrote:

Yeah, back in the days of film there wasn't any of this!
http://www.lomography.com/magazine/lifestyle/2011/05/05/in-the-company-of-fairies-5-photographs-that-tricked-the-world

really, try for once, not being defensive and just accept the fact of the matter.

wrightwrjr Loc: Paducah, KY

lighthouse wrote:

It wasn't about "nice". br My comment wa... (show quote)

There isn't much doubt as to who has the better photos. IMO, you have a ways to go before you reach Jason's level of expertise and so do I. Sorry, but my eyes didn't pop out of my head when viewing yours as they did looking at his and you do not get to decide which I think is better. I stand by that comment myself, along with my right to state it.

Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia

Okay, this image of Monument Valley, taken last week and was heavily processed in Adobe ACR, Photoshop and Nik. Does anyone see a problem with the final product as in over processed?

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RedAdmiral Loc: Humboldt County, California

For my taste I think a lot of the HDR stuff is distracting. However, as they say, "a picture is worth a thousand words." It is the artist's job to make those words communicate what he/she wants to say. Over saturation can communicate a gritty reality or a sense of whimsy. Monster overtweaking let this cliche` frog on a lily pad bring a smile do a lot of my friends who are used to my "Perfect representation of nature" efforts. I don't do this often so it created a surprise and got a smile.

Jcmarino

Mark7829 wrote:

Okay, this image of Monument Valley, taken last week and was heavily processed in Adobe ACR, Photoshop and Nik. Does anyone see a problem with the final product as in over processed?

I like it. As a learning tool, what all did you do it? Don't have to share trade secrets though.

Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia

Jcmarino wrote:

I like it. As a learning tool, what all did you do it? Don't have to share trade secrets though.

Are you ready?

ACR -

Crop
White Balance
Highlights
Clarity
Remove Shadows (significantly)
Remove Blacks (significantly and will add back in Nik)
Sharpen
Camera Lens Correction (Wide angle distortion removal)
Remove Chromatic Aberration
Vignetting (Highlight priority)

Nik - Veveza 2: using control points
structure (incredible for revealing detail)
contrast (adding selectively back the blacks removed in ACR)

Of course each image will dictate what is needed. All of my ACR settings are a single click preset and a tweak further

TheDman Loc: USA

wj cody wrote:

really, try for once, not being defensive and just accept the fact of the matter.

Accept the fact that you're wrong as usual?

djenrette Loc: Philadelphia

Every photograph I have ever seen is a fake rendition of reality. In the simplest sense, reality is 3D and photos are 2D. And that is just the start. So I am comfortable with whatever any photographer does to enhance the work. Where's the line? By making a photograph at all you have jumped across it. Of course, some people do this better than others, don't they?

TheDman Loc: USA

wrightwrjr wrote:

There isn't much doubt as to who has the better photos. IMO, you have a ways to go before you reach Jason's level of expertise and so do I. Sorry, but my eyes didn't pop out of my head when viewing yours as they did looking at his and you do not get to decide which I think is better. I stand by that comment myself, along with my right to state it.

I'm kind of curious how you went from being against all PP in your original comment to defending someone who heavily PPs.

blackest Loc: Ireland

Jcmarino wrote:

Hey Lightroom, love the first one and the sunset over the ocean. Those are my favorite kind of photos. I live in the mountains and you have to look straight up to see the sky! Love the sea and its sunsets.

But you live in the mountains :)

One thing I try to remember is that where I live is ordinary to me,but to most people it is quite extraordinary. Thats not too hard for me because to be fair I grew up in the UK and moved here to Ireland and see the difference still.

MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City

lighthouse wrote:

I can't believe that this processing effort is from a "get it right in camera" proponent.

I agree with you, lighthouse. As for me, I much prefer the first image. That is my own personal taste and opinion, so need for any knicker twisting.

wrightwrjr Loc: Paducah, KY

TheDman wrote:

I'm kind of curious how you went from being against all PP in your original comment to defending someone who heavily PPs.

You may be a cat so I better answer you because you know being curious kills cats. The guys says he doesn't heavily PP. I am taking his word for it, you're not. I think what we have here is a little envy from both you and lighthouse. You can't do it without heavy PP, he can. I hope I answered your question.

TheDman Loc: USA

wrightwrjr wrote:

You may be a cat so I better answer you because you know being curious kills cats. The guys says he doesn't heavily PP. I am taking his word for it, you're not. I think what we have here is a little envy from both you and lighthouse. You can't do it without heavy PP, he can. I hope I answered your question.

Heh, I guarantee you it's not that. I don't PP either, everything is straight out of the camera. And I wouldn't trade portfolios with Jason.

Marionsho Loc: Kansas

dsmeltz wrote:

Obviously I agree with most of what you say. However, the Lieca Monochrome M is an AWSOME B&W digital camera with what? Ohhh Yeah more breakthrough technology.!!

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Bob Boner

The jpeg image that your camera produces is processed in camera by someone (in Japan, Korea, or wherever the camera is produced) who has never seen the subject of your image. If you are content to let that person process the data your camera captures, that is your choice. If you think you can do a better job of capturing the emotional impact of what you saw when you pressed the shutter button, then use the software that you can control to produce what you saw/felt/imagined.