Is this the gereral rule?
May 23, 2014 09:26:49 #
May 23, 2014 09:38:42 #
GrayPlayer wrote:
"Rules!" We got rules!"
Or... "Rules?, we don't need no stinkn' rules."
May 23, 2014 09:47:22 #
amehta wrote:
I wasn't trying to be mean.
Neither was I
:D I think a non smiling face brings out the features of most models today (imho) children are another kettle of fish :-D
May 23, 2014 10:08:03 #
amehta
Loc: Boston
kejoed wrote:
Neither was I
:D I think a non smiling face brings out the features of most models today (imho) children are another kettle of fish :-D
:D I think a non smiling face brings out the features of most models today (imho) children are another kettle of fish :-D
Yes, that's an interesting thought. Variety is definitely good. I wonder if there is a difference for photos of models versus a regular portrait shoot of an adult. With a model, the photographer may be trying to get a particular look, and the model is not the client. With a portrait shoot, I think the goal is to convey the character of the person, and they are the client. Which type of photography are you more interested?
May 23, 2014 10:19:41 #
There are no rules related to facial expression in portraiture.
There are compositional rules,lighting rules, clothing rules.....
I have broken just about all of them but not to many at the same time.
You start breaking to many rules on one photo and your photo will go bad very quickly.
Here's a link, posted a few times before, on the 36 rules of portraiture.
http://desmond-downs.blogspot.com/2010/05/40-rules-of-portraiture.html
There are compositional rules,lighting rules, clothing rules.....
I have broken just about all of them but not to many at the same time.
You start breaking to many rules on one photo and your photo will go bad very quickly.
Here's a link, posted a few times before, on the 36 rules of portraiture.
http://desmond-downs.blogspot.com/2010/05/40-rules-of-portraiture.html
May 23, 2014 10:20:02 #
amehta wrote:
Yes, that's an interesting thought. Variety is definitely good. I wonder if there is a difference for photos of models versus a regular portrait shoot of an adult. With a model, the photographer may be trying to get a particular look, and the model is not the client. With a portrait shoot, I think the goal is to convey the character of the person, and they are the client. Which type of photography are you more interested?
But still, a rule about smiling? I guess if you want a scary picture maybe that rule works.
Oh!! Wait.
Some smiles are very scary. Think about the Joker from Batman or that creepy guy from The Shining
Oh! Wait again.
There both the same guy. Maybe the rule should be dont take a picture of Jack Nicholson smiling.
May 23, 2014 10:41:40 #
GrayPlayer
Loc: Granby, Ct.
Are models "smiling" when make-up, air brushing is applied. "I doubt it!"
Some ad executive on "Madison Ave. decides the "new" look is "no smiles!" "Keep it serious!"
I say to "he77" with rules! When photography first came about, exposure length often exceeded 3 minutes, therefore, photos rarely showed smiling people.
True, conditions were much different, especially among "dirt poor" farmers, outlaws and politicians.
"When rules enter the room, creativity leaves!"
Some ad executive on "Madison Ave. decides the "new" look is "no smiles!" "Keep it serious!"
I say to "he77" with rules! When photography first came about, exposure length often exceeded 3 minutes, therefore, photos rarely showed smiling people.
True, conditions were much different, especially among "dirt poor" farmers, outlaws and politicians.
"When rules enter the room, creativity leaves!"
May 23, 2014 10:50:31 #
Best advice I can give is natural is best.talk to ur subject, ask them about themselves. Everyone likes to talk about themselves.ask about the good n bad times n don't forget to keep shooting.ull be amazed at the facial expressions Ull get.good luck
May 23, 2014 11:23:00 #
kejoed wrote:
Trying out portrait photography and looking at "do's and don'ts"
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
Ahhh, yes, the old "snapshot".
Wouldn't want to be a snapshooter, now would we?
When it comes up, I've ALWAYS, questioned what a snapshot is.
I think it's an inferiority complex.
What do you think?!
Smile away, I think. :-)
SS
May 23, 2014 13:03:46 #
SharpShooter wrote:
Ahhh, yes, the old "snapshot".
Wouldn't want to be a snapshooter, now would we?
When it comes up, I've ALWAYS, questioned what a snapshot is.
I think it's an inferiority complex.
What do you think?!
Smile away, I think. :-)
SS
Wouldn't want to be a snapshooter, now would we?
When it comes up, I've ALWAYS, questioned what a snapshot is.
I think it's an inferiority complex.
What do you think?!
Smile away, I think. :-)
SS
It depends on the subject and their smile..
kids - smile away, there's nothing cuter than a happy kid...
adults - I won't be mean and name names of celebrities, but there are some who have great smiles, it lights up their whole face; and then there are others...lets just say they look much better with their mouth closed. And I'm not referring to their opinions...The same goes for some of us regular folk...
May 23, 2014 13:10:45 #
kejoed wrote:
Trying out portrait photography and looking at "do's and don'ts"
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
Baloney! It depends on the person and how they wish to be conveyed OR how the photographer wants to portray them.
May 23, 2014 13:41:58 #
Michael66
Loc: Queens, New York
kejoed wrote:
Trying out portrait photography and looking at "do's and don'ts"
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
And if the model is not wearing any clothes, it is pornography.
Very lame. I just love these hard and fast rules.
May 23, 2014 16:32:01 #
Thx to all who answered this post great views by all But the one line that sums it up for me anyways is by Grayplayer
"When rules enter the room, creativity leaves!"
"When rules enter the room, creativity leaves!"
May 23, 2014 19:37:06 #
GrayPlayer
Loc: Granby, Ct.
Have photographed many potential political "stars" for local campaigns. Coaxing a smile from some was like "pulling teeth!"
My boss gave up on one candidate, turning the job over to me. Held the cable and commented, "You sure "******" him off!" "Click", print it.
My boss gave up on one candidate, turning the job over to me. Held the cable and commented, "You sure "******" him off!" "Click", print it.
May 23, 2014 19:51:42 #
PalePictures wrote:
There are no rules related to facial expression in portraiture.
There are compositional rules,lighting rules, clothing rules.....
I have broken just about all of them but not to many at the same time.
You start breaking to many rules on one photo and your photo will go bad very quickly.
Here's a link, posted a few times before, on the 36 rules of portraiture.
Really good pointers! Thanks for posting.
http://desmond-downs.blogspot.com/2010/05/40-rules-of-portraiture.html
There are compositional rules,lighting rules, clothing rules.....
I have broken just about all of them but not to many at the same time.
You start breaking to many rules on one photo and your photo will go bad very quickly.
Here's a link, posted a few times before, on the 36 rules of portraiture.
Really good pointers! Thanks for posting.
http://desmond-downs.blogspot.com/2010/05/40-rules-of-portraiture.html
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