Is this the gereral rule?
May 23, 2014 21:04:11 #
boberic wrote:
Any one who has a dog will disagree
Don't forget the Cheshire Cat! :D
May 24, 2014 05:10:39 #
kejoed wrote:
Trying out portrait photography and looking at "do's and don'ts"
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
Horsefeathers!
May 24, 2014 05:43:05 #
kejoed wrote:
I just googled Kate Moss not much to smile about there!!
"Only Humans and Monkeys smile" so i am told :D :-D
"Only Humans and Monkeys smile" so i am told :D :-D
If you want to see someone who never smiles, try Victoria Beckam.
May 24, 2014 06:57:24 #
cmc4214
Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
kejoed wrote:
Trying out portrait photography and looking at "do's and don'ts"
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
I have done little to no work with models, but I would guess an "artificial" or "forced" smile is what they are referring to. I think a natural smile adds to a portrait.
May 24, 2014 07:47:38 #
ole sarg
Loc: south florida
It seems to me that a portrait should portray a person. It should show either who they are or who they want to be (for instance a movie star's stage persona).
But, the really good portrait photographers capture something special about the person.
It is interesting, but we all know a good portrait when we see one and we seldom see one.
Winston Churchill was a great model (see the Karsh portraits) because he knew how he wanted to be perceived by the audience. I think great portrait photographers have to really know their subjects and learn how they want to be perceived and how they are perceived. A hard job at best.
But, the really good portrait photographers capture something special about the person.
It is interesting, but we all know a good portrait when we see one and we seldom see one.
Winston Churchill was a great model (see the Karsh portraits) because he knew how he wanted to be perceived by the audience. I think great portrait photographers have to really know their subjects and learn how they want to be perceived and how they are perceived. A hard job at best.
May 24, 2014 08:24:20 #
After only 30 years shooting professionally the is untrue. Either the photographer directs the client to smile, not smile, semi smile etc, or the client has a choice.
May 24, 2014 08:25:34 #
kejoed wrote:
Trying out portrait photography and looking at "do's and don'ts"
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
If you lived on 50 calories a day and were treated like cattle, you wouldn't smile, either.
As for not smiling in portraits, I think that's a reaction to all the snapshots that show people smiling. Look at portraits of movie stars and other famous people, and you will see many smiling.
If you Look at pictures of singers and groups from the 1950's, they are all smiling. When you see pictures of singers and groups today, they look like they're about to kill someone.
"Smile and the world smiles with you."
May 24, 2014 08:27:36 #
ole sarg wrote:
Winston Churchill was a great model (see the Karsh portraits)...
Karsh pulled the cigar from Churchill's hand just before he clicked the shutter. On the other hand, imagine how a smiling Churchill would have looked.
May 24, 2014 08:33:02 #
amehta wrote:
I completely disagree.
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May 24, 2014 08:34:36 #
kejoed wrote:
Trying out portrait photography and looking at "do's and don'ts"
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
Mona Lisa has a smile. :) :)
May 24, 2014 08:36:55 #
May 24, 2014 09:21:14 #
kejoed wrote:
Trying out portrait photography and looking at "do's and don'ts"
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
I believe you should suit the 'smile or no smile' to match the subject's personality. Some are comfortable smiling and some look better with a more serious expression. Just depends on the person. NO, it is NOT the 'general rule'.
May 24, 2014 09:47:30 #
dsmeltz wrote:
That is probably a rule made up by a photographer ... (show quote)
I like the "smile is in the eyes" statement, but someone brought up about smiling animals, and dogs. Dogs usually don't smile with their lips, but with their tail. But as I said "usually", I have seen some dogs that looked like they were using their lips to smile, as well as the other end at the same time.
May 24, 2014 09:56:55 #
kejoed wrote:
Trying out portrait photography and looking at "do's and don'ts"
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
and found this "If the subject smiles it becomes a snapshot"
and looking at model portraiture pictures I don't see many smiling .
I don't consider this to be "snapshot":
http://favimages.com/image/193976/
Or the second one here: http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2012/02/27/102-things-i-have-learned-about-street-photography/
Or any of the shots on this page:
http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2011/10/07/the-8-best-smile-street-photographs-from-my-weekly-assignment/
May 24, 2014 11:32:24 #
For 68 years I was ALWAYS self conscious about a gap in my front teeth and never exposed more than a "Mona Lisa" smile. There was never a pic of me laughing.
I put $12 K in my mouth last year to finally fix the problem and now there's nobody to impress. I imagine there are a lot of people who have had portraits done with restricted smiles for the similar reasons.
I put $12 K in my mouth last year to finally fix the problem and now there's nobody to impress. I imagine there are a lot of people who have had portraits done with restricted smiles for the similar reasons.
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