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Jan 29, 2014 10:25:23   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
RixPix wrote:
I really need you to expand on the "limited oversight" comment. Every American knows that the Democratic Party stands for governmental regulation and increased oversight. Take a good look at those poor Republicans in West Virginia. Those people voted in the people who have literally permitted the population to be poisoned.

Under George W. Bush the incidences of e-coli in our food increased 10 times over the previous administration all due to the reduction in the number of oversight inspections in the food industry. He signed that legislation on the third day of his first administration.

You, like most other ignorant flag-waving Republicans do not follow the your parties actions. You salute the flag sing God Bless America and while you are doing that the very people you have elected are destroying the very country you love.
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You mean like Obama is doing now?

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Jan 29, 2014 10:37:27   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
RussHughes wrote:
You talk about a bunch of political crap, Where was our lying president during the Benghazi attack or our Lying Secretary of state. Where was the love shown to protect those people in harms way. Where was our military support, why were they told to stand down? We are the greatest military force in the world and nothing. Our president and his administration left our people hang out to dry and it seem it is more important to find out who cause the traffic jam over why there was nothing done to protect our own people and it was OK to let them die without a fight. How much fun do you get out of this topic? How about this Mr. Democrat, My wife and I work hard and have always bought health insurance. It was nobody’s business but ours. We paid $11,000 a year with a $2,500 deductible for the 2 of us. Now comes the wonderful Obama care to help me out. We now pay $18,200 a year and twice the deductible for the same coverage. Why are we being punished? I am going to loose my Dr. because he is going to close his business. There is a software program doctors need to rent that they have to use now because of the new rules in obama care. It cost around $30,000 a year to rent. Problem is it is required for every insurance carrier my doctor works with and there are 9 insurance so that is $30,000 time 9 each year and the doctor get paid less. Having any fun yet?
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good common sense! :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jan 29, 2014 10:40:46   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
steve03 wrote:
It seems to e both parties have done a good job when it comes to scandals involving sex and money (listed below)
Christie's scandal is a little different. Make no mistake about it Christie attacked the people he was elected to serve in Fort Lee,It is good to be King, even Nixon didn't do that. Blocking lanes on the busiest bridge in the world is no small thing, its not like blocking a road coming out of a turkey shoot. That bridge collects $600 million in tolls and most of the commerce from the south to NY and New England go over this bridge. And this scandal is starting to spread so hold on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_States
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just curious..Is the 600 million in tolls the bottom line here? Heaven forbid this is what the dems are griping about.....MONEY. I would think that inconveniencing the people should be more important.

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Jan 29, 2014 10:45:58   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
Penny MG wrote:
Wow....you need to wake up if you really believe that any real investigation has taken place. I am now seeing that even Obama followers are starting to question everything. My carpooler is my example for this. A staunch Obama supporter and now she wants to kiss his backside for being one of the biggest liars that has ever come to light.


That is supposed to be KICK his backside.....

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Jan 29, 2014 10:50:13   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
shooter123 wrote:
Guys we can sit and discuss the corruption of each party all day. We have become Democraps and Republecons. We have forgotten we are all AMERICANS. We are so busy arguing that our country has gone to hell! It doesn't matter which party you belong to you are headed down the same street and the same direction. The only difference is what side of the street you are walking on. We kicked God out of our country and this is what is left. Not preaching! An honest man of character will never get the nomination from either party because he will not play party politics. Just my opinion.
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I think your opinion is spot on!

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Jan 29, 2014 11:05:54   #
W7AX Loc: Polson, Montana
 
magicray wrote:
Democrat Jimmy Carter was our most honest President. The only mistake he made besides being useless was that he put his brother Billy in charge of watering the White House Rose Garden.


WOW! Do you ever need a history lesson ! The Panama Canal Zone and the Canal itself was sovereign US property. Bought, paid for and built my Americans when the French couldn't. Carter GAVE that all away to Panama for nothing. Now it's run by the Chinese. Now our ships have to pay over twice what they used to. Don't ever tell us that Carter didn't have serious flaws. He should have stayed with peanut farming. This country would have been far better off.

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Jan 29, 2014 11:18:08   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
KW Conch wrote:
I constantly see the fright wingers complaining about Democrats. However, I haven't heard a word from them about Republican Trey Radel of Florida resigning because he was caught using cocaine. Or, how about the now former Republican Governor of Virginia, Bob McDonnell being indicted on corruption charges for receiving gifts for favors. And, we won't even get into the Christie Bridgegate scandal.
I'm not looking for any of the apologists to say how bad the Democrats are. I see that on here everyday, real or imagined. I want to know why none of you mention the Republican scandals.
Now, I'll sit back and watch the fun.
I constantly see the fright wingers complaining ab... (show quote)


I think the reason why we don't take time to point out the bad republicans is because we are inundated with addressing the multitude of democrat short comings.It's a lot of work.
But your right,there are a few bad Republicans out there.

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Jan 29, 2014 11:21:07   #
GeneB Loc: Chattanooga Tennessee
 
PrairieSeasons wrote:
Oh my gosh!! You mean to tell us that politicians are scumbags? Who'd have thought that?


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Jan 29, 2014 11:21:44   #
GeneB Loc: Chattanooga Tennessee
 
yhtomit wrote:
I think the reason why we don't take time to point out the bad republicans is because we are inundated with addressing the multitude of democrat short comings.It's a lot of work.
But your right,there are a few bad Republicans out there.


hate to say it but more than a few. I am not a Dem.

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Jan 29, 2014 11:57:51   #
Napoleon Photo
 
If you want to have a reasonable discussion about the issues, you need to graduate from third grade and stop the name calling. (That goes for both sides). I usually ignore blogs that contains terms like "teabagger", "Obummer", "DemoRats" etc. "Fright wingers" is new to me but no more mature than the others.

Now to address your concerns. By the time we find out that a Republican has misbehaved, they are usually being escorted out of their offices. The Republicans appear to be more inclined to push their own out before they are indicted. It all comes down to nothing to talk about. He/she misbehaved, got pushed out, resigned and is gone. End of story.

On the other hand, you might recall Congressman William Jefferson from Louisiana, who was caught with money in his freezer and was eventually convicted and imprisoned for corruption. He was not forced out, in fact, he was re-elected after the money was found (among an assortment of other evidence of wrongdoing). He walked into the House of Representatives in January of 2007 to a standing ovation from the Democrats, being cheer led by Nancy Pelosi. He never resigned, he was defeated in the subsequent election. Had he been a Republican, he would likely have been shown the door (by other Republicans) as soon as the FBI found the money.

As for Christie, you will find a lot of Republicans, especially the more right wing ones, who do not like him and if you read the right blogs, you will find that there are many Republicans who are rooting for him to fall.

The charges against McDonald are serious. Once charges are filed, the presumption of innocence prevails. We can speculate as to whether or not he violated the law, but it is for the courts to decide. If he is convicted, he will join the likes of Jefferson in prison. Not openly criticizing him is not a sign of bias but the exercise of our duty to allow due process. The question is whether he is being treated differently than other politicians who accept favors from donors.

I think the complaint some have is that there seems to be more scrutiny of one party than the other. For example, Obama is an admitted former cocaine user. The news media and most Democrats have no problem with that but a Junior Congressman from Florida has to resign. Yes, the difference is current vs. former use, by my personal opinion is that the use of illegal drugs is a crime and should disqualify anyone who has habitually used them from high public office. Our leaders should be held to a higher standard than the rest of society (every one of my employers over the years required me to pass drug tests). I am certain that there are enough qualified people who have never used drugs to fill the offices.

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Jan 29, 2014 12:08:13   #
rrforster12 Loc: Leesburg Florida
 
Well, it seems to me that creeps in politics that misuse their positions for personal or Party gain should be fired no matter which Party they belong to. NO EXCEPTIONS. What we have in our Country seems to be that the Democrat Party, having a majority of the Press on their side, is allowed to slide on transgressions committed by members of that Party while the opposition Party gets slammed at every opportunity well out of proportion to what the transgression may be. Example:Christy is the subject of a massive investigative exercise over the possibility that he had something to do with causing a traffic jam, while on the other hand we have Democrat transgressions such as the IRS being used to target opposition Party members in order to thwart their support for their Candidate in a Presidential election, gun-running schemes that went awry and got innocents killed, and the abandonment of our people in Benghazi leading to their slaughter being stonewalled and swept under the carpet by those that caused those situations, and the Press seems complicit in doing so. Politics is generally a dirty business, but some transgressions are worse then others. Nobody was killed when Radel stuffed his nose with coke, and,to their credit, he was pressured by his Party to resign as opposed to how the Dems have reacted to most of their members foibles. To sum up, power corrupts, but with Top Management and a press willing to look the other way on half the corrupted officials, our government will just continue to breed more of the same.

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Jan 29, 2014 12:19:46   #
autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut
 
Napoleon Photo wrote:
If you want to have a reasonable discussion about the issues, you need to graduate from third grade and stop the name calling. (That goes for both sides). I usually ignore blogs that contains terms like "teabagger", "Obummer", "DemoRats" etc. "Fright wingers" is new to me but no more mature than the others.

Now to address your concerns. By the time we find out that a Republican has misbehaved, they are usually being escorted out of their offices. The Republicans appear to be more inclined to push their own out before they are indicted. It all comes down to nothing to talk about. He/she misbehaved, got pushed out, resigned and is gone. End of story.

On the other hand, you might recall Congressman William Jefferson from Louisiana, who was caught with money in his freezer and was eventually convicted and imprisoned for corruption. He was not forced out, in fact, he was re-elected after the money was found (among an assortment of other evidence of wrongdoing). He walked into the House of Representatives in January of 2007 to a standing ovation from the Democrats, being cheer led by Nancy Pelosi. He never resigned, he was defeated in the subsequent election. Had he been a Republican, he would likely have been shown the door (by other Republicans) as soon as the FBI found the money.

As for Christie, you will find a lot of Republicans, especially the more right wing ones, who do not like him and if you read the right blogs, you will find that there are many Republicans who are rooting for him to fall.

The charges against McDonald are serious. Once charges are filed, the presumption of innocence prevails. We can speculate as to whether or not he violated the law, but it is for the courts to decide. If he is convicted, he will join the likes of Jefferson in prison. Not openly criticizing him is not a sign of bias but the exercise of our duty to allow due process. The question is whether he is being treated differently than other politicians who accept favors from donors.

I think the complaint some have is that there seems to be more scrutiny of one party than the other. For example, Obama is an admitted former cocaine user. The news media and most Democrats have no problem with that but a Junior Congressman from Florida has to resign. Yes, the difference is current vs. former use, by my personal opinion is that the use of illegal drugs is a crime and should disqualify anyone who has habitually used them from high public office. Our leaders should be held to a higher standard than the rest of society (every one of my employers over the years required me to pass drug tests). I am certain that there are enough qualified people who have never used drugs to fill the offices.
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Jan 29, 2014 12:20:03   #
autofocus Loc: North Central Connecticut
 
rrforster12 wrote:
Well, it seems to me that creeps in politics that misuse their positions for personal or Party gain should be fired no matter which Party they belong to. NO EXCEPTIONS. What we have in our Country seems to be that the Democrat Party, having a majority of the Press on their side, is allowed to slide on transgressions committed by members of that Party while the opposition Party gets slammed at every opportunity well out of proportion to what the transgression may be. Example:Christy is the subject of a massive investigative exercise over the possibility that he had something to do with causing a traffic jam, while on the other hand we have Democrat transgressions such as the IRS being used to target opposition Party members in order to thwart their support for their Candidate in a Presidential election, gun-running schemes that went awry and got innocents killed, and the abandonment of our people in Benghazi leading to their slaughter being stonewalled and swept under the carpet by those that caused those situations, and the Press seems complicit in doing so. Politics is generally a dirty business, but some transgressions are worse then others. Nobody was killed when Radel stuffed his nose with coke, and,to their credit, he was pressured by his Party to resign as opposed to how the Dems have reacted to most of their members foibles. To sum up, power corrupts, but with Top Management and a press willing to look the other way on half the corrupted officials, our government will just continue to breed more of the same.
Well, it seems to me that creeps in politics that ... (show quote)


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Jan 29, 2014 12:23:13   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
KW Conch wrote:
I constantly see the fright wingers complaining about Democrats. However, I haven't heard a word from them about Republican Trey Radel of Florida resigning because he was caught using cocaine. Or, how about the now former Republican Governor of Virginia, Bob McDonnell being indicted on corruption charges for receiving gifts for favors. And, we won't even get into the Christie Bridgegate scandal.
I'm not looking for any of the apologists to say how bad the Democrats are. I see that on here everyday, real or imagined. I want to know why none of you mention the Republican scandals.
Now, I'll sit back and watch the fun.
I constantly see the fright wingers complaining ab... (show quote)


At least he didn't IGNORE or LIE about Benghazi, IRS, NSA, Fast and Furious , YOU CAN KEEP YOUR DOCTOR, YOUR PLAN, doesn't kiss Moslem Derrières, Wage a war on women, Nor did he promote us getting FLUKE'd ( Like in Sandra ).

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Jan 29, 2014 12:38:45   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
I think either defending or demeaning either party for the very corruption that has permeated our government since way before Tammany Hall politics is ridiculous as both sides have participated is much bigger ways in pork barreling and kick-backs that have way more negative effects on your lives than a Bob McDonald or Ray Nagen could ever do. To blindly carry water for either party without truly understanding the import and consequences of legislation, executive orders and court decisions is the sort of uninformed naïveté that is allowing bad policy that is fundamentally transforming this great country (and I don't mean in a good way).

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