Is this a photograph? If not, why not?
Jan 23, 2014 05:45:33 #
JasPetrie wrote:
It's a screen shot taken using X-Plane 10. I picked a moving carrier rather than an airport runway, and a tail-dragger to simulate a jet with a hook, managed to "fly" the plane successfully onto the deck, recorded the landing in chase mode, played the recording back, zoomed out and around, picked a spot where the helicopter (part of the carrier scenario) was in view, and took the shot. Photography?
Don't be silly.
Jan 23, 2014 06:27:28 #
It is definitely not a photograph, this is not photography. By definition, a photograph is a picture made using a camera, in which an image is focused onto film or other light-sensitive material and then made visible and permanent by chemical treatment, or stored digitally.
Jan 23, 2014 07:06:27 #
JasPetrie wrote:
It's a screen shot taken using X-Plane 10. I picked a moving carrier rather than an airport runway, and a tail-dragger to simulate a jet with a hook, managed to "fly" the plane successfully onto the deck, recorded the landing in chase mode, played the recording back, zoomed out and around, picked a spot where the helicopter (part of the carrier scenario) was in view, and took the shot. Photography?
I'd call it a picture, rather than a photograph. Although it uses light, it's not what people think of when they hear the word "photograph." A photo that's been processed in PS is still a photo, but when you combine several separate images and manipulate everything, I wouldn't say it's a photograph.
Consider a movie posted or a full-page advertisement. Although it consists of images made with a camera, they would not be considered photographs. They are "works of art" made with photographs.
Jan 23, 2014 07:16:35 #
If that is a "photo"; any "screen shot" is a photo, whether it be of a game or a page of text.
Looking at the image is the same as merely pausing any computer game and viewing the image.
Not a photograph imo.
Looking at the image is the same as merely pausing any computer game and viewing the image.
Not a photograph imo.
Jan 23, 2014 07:20:14 #
Shutter Bugger wrote:
If that is a "photo"; any "screen shot" is a photo, whether it be of a game or a page of text.
Looking at the image is the same as merely pausing any computer game and viewing the image.
Not a photograph imo.
Looking at the image is the same as merely pausing any computer game and viewing the image.
Not a photograph imo.
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Jan 23, 2014 07:25:11 #
B-n-L
Loc: Nevada
All legalities aside. While I don't believe it is a photograph, logically it is as much of a photograph as any other image that has run through post processing.
Jan 23, 2014 07:26:43 #
RichieC
Loc: Adirondacks
Illustration- pure and simple. IF Mickey Mouse was in the cockpit... it would be the same circumstance and yet, because all the items are now not realistic, nobody would consider it a photograph. Plus in the strict sense, no light was used to create the image, just the computers algorithm of pixel colors as calculated they would interact with a series of mathematical figures to create the illusion of 3D space. Light only comes into the equasion when you view it- so your eyes can see it.
Looneytoons are cartoons, and not a photograph, albeit a series of illustrated stills were shot with a camera then put together to create the ILLUSION of movement. But the final product is an illustration.
Finally, if you took a photograph of the Mona Lisa, and cropped it down to just the image area...would it be a photograph of a woman , with a horizon not quite accurate, and yet she has a captivating smile? Or is it a photo of a famous painting? We could judge it on its focus and capture of detail- but it is what it is- a photo of a painting- you don't get to claim the composition as a photograph even if you were able to move things around .
Looneytoons are cartoons, and not a photograph, albeit a series of illustrated stills were shot with a camera then put together to create the ILLUSION of movement. But the final product is an illustration.
Finally, if you took a photograph of the Mona Lisa, and cropped it down to just the image area...would it be a photograph of a woman , with a horizon not quite accurate, and yet she has a captivating smile? Or is it a photo of a famous painting? We could judge it on its focus and capture of detail- but it is what it is- a photo of a painting- you don't get to claim the composition as a photograph even if you were able to move things around .
Jan 23, 2014 07:45:16 #
amehta
Loc: Boston
For a photograph, there is a physical object which is represented on the medium (glass plate, film, sensor, and whatever comes next) by having the "light" from that object "written" on the medium. The photographer isn't the one doing the writing, the subject is.
Jan 23, 2014 07:47:29 #
Very interesting question. My gut reaction is that you manipulated various images to get what you wanted, and that took more creativity, planning, and skill than just standing in front of a painting and snapping a photo of it. And the screenshot itself is a visual recording, or capture, just like a digital photo. In my publishing days, whenever we manipulated a photo or scans of objects in any way to create a graphic, we called it a "photo illustration" in the credit line to differentiate it from an actual photograph. In other words, to show that it was not meant to represent physical reality or to fool or mislead anyone. If you were to show or sell this photo-illustration, the ethical (and maybe even legal) thing to do would be to credit the source of the images somewhere.
JasPetrie wrote:
Thanks to all for the responses. Bob may be right, and I don't mean to be argumentative. But if I stood in a gallery in front of an oil painting and photographed it with a digital camera in Program mode, it would be a photograph even though I made little effort to get positioned and let the camera make all the choices.
Jan 23, 2014 07:53:51 #
hj
Loc: Florida
amehta wrote:
My opinion is that this is digital art, but not photography. You did not write this with light, you wrote it with computer data.
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Jan 23, 2014 08:03:06 #
It is a copy of someone elses effort. Now, if you wrote the program, and created the graphics that allowed you to present this shot, it is digital art. As you are presenting it it is a presentation of someone else's work.
Jan 23, 2014 08:10:11 #
JasPetrie wrote:
It's a screen shot taken using X-Plane 10. I picked a moving carrier rather than an airport runway, and a tail-dragger to simulate a jet with a hook, managed to "fly" the plane successfully onto the deck, recorded the landing in chase mode, played the recording back, zoomed out and around, picked a spot where the helicopter (part of the carrier scenario) was in view, and took the shot. Photography?
Yes, it is photography in its most simplistic form:
Definition of PHOTOGRAPHY
: the art or process of producing images by the action of radiant energy and especially light on a sensitive surface (as film or an optical sensor)
That being said," The Art of Photography" is a whole different ballgame.
Jan 23, 2014 08:13:39 #
amehta
Loc: Boston
MagicFad wrote:
Yes, it is photography in its most simplistic form:
Definition of PHOTOGRAPHY
: the art or process of producing images by the action of radiant energy and especially light on a sensitive surface (as film or an optical sensor)
That being said," The Art of Photography" is a whole different ballgame.
Definition of PHOTOGRAPHY
: the art or process of producing images by the action of radiant energy and especially light on a sensitive surface (as film or an optical sensor)
That being said," The Art of Photography" is a whole different ballgame.
How did your definition get satisfied by what he did?
Jan 23, 2014 08:22:23 #
busted_shutter wrote:
A thought-provoking subject. br Technically yes, ... (show quote)
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Jan 23, 2014 08:31:05 #
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