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Jan 23, 2014 08:39:23   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
marquis1955 wrote:
Was there a camera used ? Definitely art. I say yes !


It was a "screen shot" so NO, not a photograph. If I take a screen shot of Abraham Lincoln on the computer, do I get credit for taking his Photograph?

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Jan 23, 2014 08:54:02   #
MagicFad Loc: Clermont, FL
 
amehta wrote:
How did your definition get satisfied by what he did?


"I took the shot"

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Jan 23, 2014 08:58:49   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
MagicFad wrote:
"I took the shot"

But he didn't "take the shot", he took pieces of digital art that he found and "pasted" them together. The original art did not come from a camera either, it was all CGI. "No camera was harmed in the creation of this image." :-)

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Jan 23, 2014 09:03:38   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
So, it sounds like you photo shopped first, then captured the completed image? Reverse photography? I like it! Lol

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Jan 23, 2014 09:17:40   #
Dlevon Loc: New Jersey
 
amehta wrote:
There may be a difference when we use digital images to create other digital images, rather than other subjects. Similarly, taking a picture of a photograph at a museum is different than taking a picture of a sculpture. The former has an aspect of "reproduction" which the latter does not. Nobody is going to look at the photograph of "David" and think you are claiming it as your own work. But if you take a photograph of an Ansel Adams photo, there is the question of whether you went to Yosemite and took the picture yourself or if you "copied" it.

Both intent and reasonable perception might be involved here.
There may be a difference when we use digital imag... (show quote)



Agreed!
:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jan 23, 2014 09:24:24   #
marquis1955 Loc: Lometa, TX
 
Art not a photograph someone else took the shot
amehta wrote:
But he didn't "take the shot", he took pieces of digital art that he found and "pasted" them together. The original art did not come from a camera either, it was all CGI. "No camera was harmed in the creation of this image." :-)

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Jan 23, 2014 09:28:01   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
JasPetrie wrote:
It's a screen shot taken using X-Plane 10. I picked a moving carrier rather than an airport runway, and a tail-dragger to simulate a jet with a hook, managed to "fly" the plane successfully onto the deck, recorded the landing in chase mode, played the recording back, zoomed out and around, picked a spot where the helicopter (part of the carrier scenario) was in view, and took the shot. Photography?


It is a manipulated photograph

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Jan 23, 2014 09:33:35   #
Psergel Loc: New Mexico
 
No. It's not photography any more than CGI is cinematography.

That being said, I'm sure there are still plenty of people out there who thought (and maybe still think) that digital photography of any kind isn't really photography.

Ten or twenty years from now what will photography mean? If we simply define "photography" as the translation of the two greek words that it was created from light and drawing (as R'laine pointed out) it will cover a very wide field indeed.
The discussion quickly becomes more philosophical than technical.

I just realized that I didn't really give an answer to the question you asked.

Is this a photograph? Beats the hell out of me.

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Jan 23, 2014 09:34:38   #
MagicFad Loc: Clermont, FL
 
amehta wrote:
But he didn't "take the shot", he took pieces of digital art that he found and "pasted" them together. The original art did not come from a camera either, it was all CGI. "No camera was harmed in the creation of this image." :-)


That is not the way I understood what he did. If he did not take a picture, it is not photography it is computer graphics.

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Jan 23, 2014 09:40:57   #
edazz Loc: Florida via New York
 
A photograph is created by light entering a camera lens and registering what it sees onto a film or digital media. Anything that is done to that image, post creating of the image, is simply a manipulation of the original image and still considered a photograph. Whether you made an original shot or simply copied someone else's shot, and manipulated them through computer software, still makes it a creative photograph. BTW the plane is coming in hot and high! I worked the flight deck of the Independence and seen it all.

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Jan 23, 2014 09:43:15   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
MagicFad wrote:
That is not the way I understood what he did. If he did not take a picture, it is not photography it is computer graphics.

I had to google "X-Plane 10", it is a flight simulator game. He recorded the game, and on playback he took a "screen shot".

I now understand what he did better, and it's even further away from a photograph than I originally thought...

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Jan 23, 2014 09:54:19   #
Shutter Bugger
 
marquis1955 wrote:
Was there a camera used ? Definitely art. I say yes !


There was no camera, it's a "Screen Shot" of a computer game.

Press a couple of buttons on the computer keyboard and the image on the display is saved to the hard drive.

Google; How to take a "Screen Shot" and you will see
what I mean.

Anybody who thinks the OP has posted a "Photograph" has got rocks in their head! Jesus H Christ! some of you lot are so thick.... have they been putting brain deadener in the water up there?

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Jan 23, 2014 09:55:34   #
amyinsparta Loc: White county, TN
 
You took a picture with a camera, didn't you? Then it is a photograph.

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Jan 23, 2014 10:06:44   #
hj Loc: Florida
 
amyinsparta wrote:
You took a picture with a camera, didn't you? Then it is a photograph.


Do you people read these posts before you reply? He did not use a camera. It's a computer game and he hit a button on the computer and took a SCREEN SHOT not a photograph! Even the original was not a photograph.... graphic arts.

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Jan 23, 2014 10:07:05   #
amehta Loc: Boston
 
amyinsparta wrote:
You took a picture with a camera, didn't you? Then it is a photograph.

No, he didn't. He played a computer game and did a screen capture. No camera was harmed in the creation of this image. :-)

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