No disagreement with your first two paragraphs.

Anyone who thinks Obama doesn't know whether to crap or wind his watch, doesn't know what he is talking about, if you will forgive me.

AND...you don't know that it is a flawed health plan. Social Security was not a disaster, nor was medicare. If Obamacare is a failure, republicans will get plenty of milage out of it, but the Mass plan isn't a failure.

The goal is universal health insurance. And for universal health insurance to be universal, it must be...universal.

We don't know whether you will get cancer, or heart disease or what else. What we do know is that a given percentage of the population will get these, and we know down to four decimal places, and what it will cost.

The idea is to spread that cost to as many people as possible, so that all share the financial risk, and all share the benefits.

That is what insurance is all about.

BTW, any thinking person now knows that the republicans are not about constructive compromise, but want to destroy anything Obama does--even plans the republican propose if Obama agrees.

You need to be a little more informed, if you'll forgive me; study both sides of the argument, then pick the one you believe in.

Anyone who thinks Obama is stupid is setting himself up for disappointment, same as anyone who thinks the republicans are constructive.

Don't invest too much in republican politics; they are dying as a party.

Cheers, didn't mean to be too insulting...tom

No disagreement with your first two paragraphs.

Anyone who thinks Obama doesn't know whether to crap or wind his watch, doesn't know what he is talking about, if you will forgive me.

AND...you don't know that it is a flawed health plan. Social Security was not a disaster, nor was medicare. If Obamacare is a failure, republicans will get plenty of milage out of it, but the Mass plan isn't a failure.

The goal is universal health insurance. And for universal health insurance to be universal, it must be...universal.

We don't know whether you will get cancer, or heart disease or what else. What we do know is that a given percentage of the population will get these, and we know down to four decimal places, and what it will cost.

The idea is to spread that cost to as many people as possible, so that all share the financial risk, and all share the benefits.

That is what insurance is all about.

BTW, any thinking person now knows that the republicans are not about constructive compromise, but want to destroy anything Obama does--even plans the republican propose if Obama agrees.

You need to be a little more informed, if you'll forgive me; study both sides of the argument, then pick the one you believe in.

Anyone who thinks Obama is stupid is setting himself up for disappointment, same as anyone who thinks the republicans are constructive.

Don't invest too much in republican politics; they are dying as a party.

Cheers, didn't mean to be too insulting...tom

As is the case with most liberals, you have a complete failure to understand. If the ACA is the LAW then how did Obama change a part of it all by himself (the employer mandate)? And BTW, the Supreme Court DID NOT uphold the law, they only ruled that the penalty is a TAX. Go do your homework.

This shutdown is on the shoulders of an unyielding Democrat majority in the senate who refuses to even delay the individual mandate. Let's see...it's OK if Obama wants to delay a part of the law, but it is NOT OK if the Republicans want to delay a part of the law. You simply don't get it! Oh...and the American people did not pass the ACA by reelecting Obama. The majority of the American people oppose ACR...that is a fact.

Slavery was the law of the land, too. Saying that is just parroting nonsense. The authority to fund, or not fund, the ACA is given to Congress by the Constitution, which happens to be the supreme law of the land. So it is completely lawful and constitutional for congress to choose what to fund. Much the same way Obama has the power to choose which laws to enforce.
As for anti-democratic, absolutely! And I am extraordinarily glad for it. Democracies, as our founders knew, are just a vehicle for mob rule. That's why we have a republic.