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May 9, 2013 11:43:32   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
actigner wrote:
Does the subscription also cover using on two computers (one at home and one on the road) like their current licensing does?


Yes it does I have CC on may Home Computer and my Laptop

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May 9, 2013 12:04:54   #
saichiez Loc: Beautiful Central Oregon
 
James Eslinger wrote:
I'm curious to know what people think of Adobe's move to the 'rental' software model. It seems Adobe may soon offer it's products, such as Photoshop (full version), Lightroom, etc. only through a subscription. The older versions will still work on your PCs, but newer versions will not be licensed the way they have been, instead one will subscribe to a service at a monthly cost.

Being the standard it is, I've always used one version or another of Photoshop. I'm also tempted by the upcoming release of Lightroom 5. But I'm not wild about the changes Adobe is making in their marketing by going to a subscription based service.

I'm looking into the Corel Paint Shop software, and their After Shot Pro. I have an older version of Paint Shop Pro that came pre-installed on my PC, and I like it fairly well. What are your opinions? I've also tried GIMP, and its OK, but has been a little flaky. I'm in the mood to send Adobe a message though, and steer my business elsewhere.
I'm curious to know what people think of Adobe's m... (show quote)


And yet there are people who have two leased automobiles in their garage or driveway, who are recoiling at this move by Adobe. Also for those not aware, this is the model that Microsoft is either pursuing, or will pursue in the Corporate (and likely consumer) market for Microsoft Office product. All major GOOD software will ultimately be used on a rental basis. If you lease your car, you have NO complaint here. Software companies are simply trying to even out their cash flow and marry you to their products. Good Marketing always wins out.

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May 9, 2013 12:08:40   #
ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ
 
saichiez wrote:
And yet there are people who have two leased automobiles in their garage or driveway, who are recoiling at this move by Adobe. Also for those not aware, this is the model that Microsoft is either pursuing, or will pursue in the Corporate (and likely consumer) market for Microsoft Office product. All major GOOD software will ultimately be used on a rental basis. If you lease your car, you have NO complaint here. Software companies are simply trying to even out their cash flow and marry you to their products. Good Marketing always wins out.
And yet there are people who have two leased autom... (show quote)


And if we DON'T lease our car, can we complain?

:roll:

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May 9, 2013 12:31:45   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Festus wrote:
I will probably subscribe and I am not a professional photographer. I took the plunge with Microsoft 2013 subscription a few months ago and love it. The subscription process only changes how you get the software. Any files that I create I have the option of saving them in Microsoft's SkyDrive (their Cloud) or on my computer. What is very nice is that if I store a file in SkyDrive I can access that file from almost any device. (another computer, my iPhone or iPad) very attractive feature.


My question and fear is what happens should you discontinue your subscription?

Yes, you may have stored the documents you have created on your own device but, without the software what good is it?

I would suppose there is a password needed to access - what happens if you have an attack of some sort and are unable to convey the password or where to find it - is your guardian (spouce, child, care-giver, executor) then locked out of what could be vitally needed information?

I would assume that for some, their images will constitute an asset to their estate. But of what value are they if they are unaccessable? Or, how much is the value diminished if one must institute court proceedings to gain access?

At least for the forseeable future or until there answers to my concerns, I'll stay with buying, installing and saving to my computer and drives.

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May 9, 2013 12:33:44   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
dirtpusher wrote:
I Don't See Me Subscribing. Just Keep What I Have. An Research Other Pp Software.


That's the answer. Adobe is just encouraging others to get into the business and offer reasonably priced and accessible products. Thank goodness for competition and tahell with Adobe.

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May 9, 2013 12:35:55   #
stan0301 Loc: Colorado
 
I once heard a discussion of the bits used to drill oil wells--what was said was "Well, you don't have to use a Hughes Bit--you could always use a shovel.--Same with Photoshop--if you want to have the best images you use Photoshop--nothing is "just as good". I see endless talk about "this lens is best--this body is best". And then talk about not using Photoshop--makes no sense. That said, the amount of storage Adobe makes available is ridiculous--I have two computer stations plus a laptop, and behind each of the main work places sit about 5 3TB drives and the laptop has a couple 1.5 TB that live in its case--I use bigger cards in my D800's than Adobe seems to think a photographer "needs"--Proof (to my mind) that those who design it don't use it. Plus the day some poor decision results in Adobe going under do you really want to loose every image you "own"? By the way, the root cause is that while Microsoft is the most hacked program out there, Photoshop is second--Adobe is addressing a real problem, if you have a better solution eMail them with it.
Stan

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May 9, 2013 12:38:36   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
I Been Sending Job Bids An Contracts proposals Up On Skydrive For Awile With Out A Subscription. Pretty Handy Out On The Jobsite.

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May 9, 2013 12:40:14   #
chuckr6767 Loc: Montana
 
actigner wrote:
Does the subscription also cover using on two computers (one at home and one on the road) like their current licensing does?


Yes...over and out...ChuckR

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May 9, 2013 12:40:53   #
Ziza Loc: USA
 
CaptainC wrote:
Another thread of mis-information. Photoshop alone is $10.00/month and you get improvements as they are ready. The $50.00 is for the whole suite and THAT is a real deal.

$10/month is a promotional price for the first year ONLY -- 50% of the regular price. Beginning the second year it will be $20.

http://www.adobe.com/products/discount-software-coupons.html

And, if you cancel your subscription, you will lose access to the program/s.

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What happens to Photoshop CC and my files if I cancel my subscription?

We do not delete any files or software from your computer. You will not be able to use the software but the files you've created and saved on your hard drive are left intact. And you don't need a valid license or Internet connection to uninstall the software.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/05/08/Adobe-photoshop-cc

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May 9, 2013 12:55:14   #
Ziza Loc: USA
 
Ambrose wrote:
Speaking of misinformation, where are you seeing $10? :? The Adobe site says any single app is $19.99 (which isn't horrible) .
http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/buying-guide.html

$10/month is a promotion price; it is valid for the first year of your subscription only.

http://www.adobe.com/products/discount-software-coupons.html

I had thought about subscribing to Photoshop for about one year (mostly to get the 3D features, previously only available in the Extended version). Then, I realize that, if I cancelled my subscription, this would happen:

Quote:
You will not be able to use the software

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/05/08/Adobe-photoshop-cc

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May 9, 2013 13:08:32   #
Ziza Loc: USA
 
BboH wrote:
My question and fear is what happens should you discontinue your subscription?

That was the first thought which came to my mind when I heard about this "great deal". The answer is a simple one.

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You will not be able to use the software but the files you've created and saved on your hard drive are left intact.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/05/08/Adobe-photoshop-cc

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May 9, 2013 13:10:00   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
Geez people, use your heads! If you save images as JPG or TIFF, those are universal files and you will not lose access to them and even some third party software can read PSDs, believe

I have nots saved a PSD in years - al my layered files are layered TIFFs.

OF COURSE if your subscription lapses you will lose access. What else would you think? There will be other software that CAN read the files. This is no big deal.

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May 9, 2013 13:19:19   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
HERE is the PERFECT response to Adobe.
Not safe for work.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Iw9q2X9cU&feature=youtu.be

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May 9, 2013 13:19:22   #
TreeSpring
 
actigner wrote:
Does the subscription also cover using on two computers (one at home and one on the road) like their current licensing does?


Yes, it does. I use it on 2 computers.

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May 9, 2013 13:19:43   #
tbissonn Loc: Boston
 
I am currently using Adobe Cloud. At this point I believe it is worth while and allows me to have access to more than PS and Lightroom. If the pricing structure gets to a point where I do not think it is a value for my use, I will rethink the process. However, this is not the only company doing this and moving in this direction.

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