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Mar 20, 2024 10:00:30   #
SkyKing Loc: Thompson Ridge, NY
 
…I love spending other people’s money…check out the Canon EOS R6 Mark II…you can thank me later…!

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Mar 20, 2024 10:01:58   #
Canisdirus
 
You kept saying you are happy...why do anything?

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Mar 20, 2024 12:57:10   #
lreisner Loc: Union,NJ
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You have two fine cameras, alas, two that overlap in such a way they are much the same camera. Both are pro-grade cameras, like most all interchangeable lens cameras now in the 21st century. Both are built to last through numerous years of relatively heavy use indoors and outdoors. Don't worry about any new camera bodies until one (or both) of these bodies develops a problem that is too expensive to bother with fixing.

If you can't ignore the GAS, try ignoring UHH until the urge passes.



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Mar 20, 2024 13:34:11   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
As for full frame I figured if upgrading go with larger sensor. 16 x 20 is as large as I'll print.

Full frame will let me crop more too.
Granted my logic can be faulty
I also do astrophotography through a 10 inch scope


When you crop the image of a full frame by 1.5, you reduce the pixel count to only 44.4% of the original. For crops/blow-ups, using a crop camera of 24 MP is like using a full frame of 54 MP.

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Mar 20, 2024 13:43:00   #
Alphabravo2020
 
I would not go ML for still or controlled shooting. The color rendition on my Nikon D850 and fast lenses has not been matched IMO. There is not enough value with the ML cost and too many sacrifices in color, battery life, durability, etc.

For runway work I waited until the Sony autofocus system was too good to pass up (which was this last year). The Nikon DSLR autofocus system is not reliable when shooting handheld at 50mm with a moving model and when the light is unpredictable and usually bad. I have to shoot wide open and with a shutter speed as low as 1/250 just to keep ISO and noise reasonable. The Sony autofocus system does all this. It locks onto eyes and tracks at 50mm wide open at f/1.2. Just crazy good. That said I don't think any of 50k photos I've taken with Sony ML in the last year has eclipsed the beauty of what the D850 does.

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Mar 20, 2024 14:02:46   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
As for full frame I figured if upgrading go with larger sensor. 16 x 20 is as large as I'll print.

Full frame will let me crop more too.
Granted my logic can be faulty
I also do astrophotography through a 10 inch scope

I have a crop 20 megapixel camera and have no difficulty printing sharp 16x20 inch. When I use the correct lens, I don't need to crop. Why do you need to crop?

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Mar 20, 2024 15:04:55   #
NateB
 
jackpinoh wrote:
I have a crop 20 megapixel camera and have no difficulty printing sharp 16x20 inch. When I use the correct lens, I don't need to crop. Why do you need to crop?


My thoughts exactly! Plenty of people mention cropping, but what’s the big deal? Why crop? Lack of patience while photographing and have to make up for it with PP or what?

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Mar 20, 2024 15:11:42   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
jackpinoh wrote:
I have a crop 20 megapixel camera and have no difficulty printing sharp 16x20 inch. When I use the correct lens, I don't need to crop. Why do you need to crop?


"Why do you need to crop? is an odd question. A whole list of reasons flooding into my head on reading this. To improve the photograph. To bring the subject closer or put it in a different place in the composition. To print for a specific frame. To fill the frame of a modern TV or projection screen. To bring the subject closer when you couldn't get closer yourself or didn't have the fire power in your lens. To make a vertical shot horizontal or the other way around. To improve the drama of a shot or feature something in the shot you didn't notice when you took it. And on and on...
I crop all the time to make the best picture I can, or sometimes just a different picture. I am proudly ruthless in doing this and am always trying to achieve the sharpest and most perfectly exposed file partly so that I can crop without worrying about losing quality.
You never crop? You should try it sometime. You might find lots of cool pictures within the files you have.

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Mar 20, 2024 16:25:24   #
User ID
 
NateB wrote:
My thoughts exactly! Plenty of people mention cropping, but what’s the big deal? Why crop? Lack of patience while photographing and have to make up for it with PP or what?

Most excellent photos of subjects that are not absolutely static are cropped. Better for you to think that thru rather than anyone explaining it all for you.

In a further sense, almost no subject is truly static and unchanging once its been recorded. The image is usually a rather different beast than the original real world scene and yields up new visual discoveries not really visible, or noticeable, while photographing.

Those that greatly enjoy PP and discovering the unanticipated in their images might well favor an SLR or even an RF camera over the WYSIWYG nature of a LV system, but even LV cant toadally eliminate new discoveries in PP.

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Mar 20, 2024 16:54:19   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
Why do I crop? Simple.

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Mar 20, 2024 16:58:08   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
alberio wrote:
Maybe spend some of that refund and get one of them full spectrum modified to improve your astrophotography.


I'm not modifying my camera for ASTRO
They sell dedicated ASTRO cameras that I would buy instead.
They take out the IR filter to convert them. It's an expensive procedure and not worth it

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Mar 20, 2024 17:17:28   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
CamB wrote:
Why do I crop? Simple.


Great examples. I “tighten up” (even if only a little) almost every image I process.

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Mar 20, 2024 17:23:50   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You have two fine cameras, alas, two that overlap in such a way they are much the same camera. Both are pro-grade cameras, like most all interchangeable lens cameras now in the 21st century. Both are built to last through numerous years of relatively heavy use indoors and outdoors. Don't worry about any new camera bodies until one (or both) of these bodies develops a problem that is too expensive to bother with fixing.

If you can't ignore the GAS, try ignoring UHH until the urge passes.



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Mar 20, 2024 19:15:01   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
jackpinoh wrote:
I have a crop 20 megapixel camera and have no difficulty printing sharp 16x20 inch. When I use the correct lens, I don't need to crop. Why do you need to crop?


Some objects are too far away and require croping. The eagles I shoot moved their nest so now the're small in the photo, this is one example of why.

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Mar 20, 2024 19:17:20   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
jackpinoh wrote:
I have a crop 20 megapixel camera and have no difficulty printing sharp 16x20 inch. When I use the correct lens, I don't need to crop. Why do you need to crop?


Why would you NOT crop if it improves composition?

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