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Mar 18, 2024 16:29:44   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Gourmand wrote:
With high speed sports or nature photography, when the subject is moving towards or away from you a mirrorless camera focuses continuously. A DSLR stops focusing as soon as the mirror begins its trip. Not a big deal in a static setting, but if you're behind the goal that fraction of a second between the time when the focusing stops and the image is captured is the difference between a sharp image and a slightly soft one. The keeper rate in these cases goes WAY up.

If that's what one needs.....

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Mar 18, 2024 16:34:50   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Mirrorless cameras are a way of feeling, of touching, of loving. Images captured from behind a mirror are cold, heartless and uncaring.


You're describing ME!! And I don't feel even a Little bit bad about it!

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Mar 18, 2024 16:42:44   #
pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
When you change to shooting a mirrorless camera, you already know you're a better photographer.


First and foremost, equipment doesn’t make anyone a better photographer. If there is one lesson I’ve learned in this forum, that’s it.

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Mar 18, 2024 17:13:36   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
pmorin wrote:
First and foremost, equipment doesn’t make anyone a better photographer. If there is one lesson I’ve learned in this forum, that’s it.

You do know his comment was tongue-in-cheek, correct?

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Mar 18, 2024 17:17:58   #
TonyP Loc: New Zealand
 
Gourmand wrote:
With high speed sports or nature photography, when the subject is moving towards or away from you a mirrorless camera will focus continuously until the image is recorded. A DSLR stops focusing as soon as the mirror begins its trip, and before the image is recorded. Not a big deal in a static setting, but if you're behind the goal that fraction of a second between the time when the focusing stops and the image is captured is the difference between a sharp image and a slightly soft one. The keeper rate in these cases goes WAY up with mirrorless cameras.
With high speed sports or nature photography, when... (show quote)


Makes one wonder how come there were so many award winning fantastic sports pictures made before mirrorless.
Maybe photographers had to be skillful, masters of their art.
Not so much required today with technology taking the place of human ability.
One day maybe the photographer will just need a finger to push the button...
Thinking of driverless cars

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Mar 18, 2024 17:20:30   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
TonyP wrote:
Makes one wonder how come there were so many award winning fantastic sports pictures made before mirrorless.
Maybe photographers had to be skillful, masters of their art.
Not so much required today with technology taking the place of human ability.
One day maybe the photographer will just need a finger to push the button...
Thinking of driverless cars


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Mar 18, 2024 17:43:03   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else.


The IQ of sensors hasn't really improved in the past 10-12 years. Backlit sensors and hybrid sensors that use phase detection for autofocus are tweaks that were added when DSLRs still ruled the roost, but you'd be hard pressed to see a difference in IQ between a 10 year old Nikon D810 and their latest and greatest cameras. What does make a difference is features, speed, much better autofocus, weight, viable electronic shutters with limited rolling shutter effects, better lenses etc. You have to go mirrorless to appreciate those things.

But I'll say this. If your 10 year old camera meets your needs, don't waste money upgrading.

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Mar 18, 2024 17:43:33   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
I'm a pro landscape photographer with over 4 decades of experience and I always shoot from a tripod using my viewfinder not the LCD. The biggest advantage for me shooting with a mirrorless camera is being able to magnify any area for critical focus plus I can check my exposure on a live histogram before I press the shutter.

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Mar 18, 2024 17:52:34   #
Polock
 
Does a iPhone have a mirror ?
I've made my point.

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Mar 18, 2024 18:00:41   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Please, it's more than newer, bigger, stronger sensors.

It's also the newest, biggest, strongest processors.
It's also IBIS.
It's also focus assist.
It's also focus peeking.
It's also smaller(ish) size with the removal of space needed for a flapping mirror.
It's also the EVF.
It's also newer and sharper mirrorless lens designs.
It's also adapting legacy SLR lenses from any brand.
It's also no mechanical shutter and bursts in the 30+ per second range.
It's also advanced eye-tracking AF.
Please, it's more than newer, bigger, stronger sen... (show quote)



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Mar 18, 2024 18:24:32   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Rongnongno wrote:
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else.

The idea of using a display instead of through the lens is reverting to old time when folks were looking from above to focus...

Issues with the display...
- LIGHT!!! If too bright, good luck using the display.
- Eyes issue If one needs glasses all bets are off, there is no way to adjust for that but use the tiny in camera display in the 'view finder'. Go check for accuracy on that since the display is made of tiny pixels vs 'a normal light' (analog)
- Weight unbalance. (Light body, heavy lens)

That is one of the few reasons why I will not upgrade to mirrorless, even if I do appreciate the new sensors.
The progress is in the sensor, nowhere else. br b... (show quote)


It is interesting to hear this. Even at 74 years of age and increasing eyeglass problems, I have none of the problems you have mentioned with my mirrorless camera. I can see why you have your point of view, but I wonder why I don't have the same problems.

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Mar 18, 2024 18:29:22   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
pmorin wrote:
First and foremost, equipment doesn’t make anyone a better photographer. If there is one lesson I’ve learned in this forum, that’s it.


LOL

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Mar 18, 2024 18:29:30   #
fantom Loc: Colorado
 
Longshadow wrote:
Like I said, nothing earthshaking there for me.


Mighty short sighted view, or just limited requirements in your shooting habits.

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Mar 18, 2024 18:35:18   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Please, it's more than newer, bigger, stronger sensors.

It's also the newest, biggest, strongest processors.
It's also IBIS.
It's also focus assist.
It's also focus peeking.
It's also smaller(ish) size with the removal of space needed for a flapping mirror.
It's also the EVF.
It's also newer and sharper mirrorless lens designs.
It's also adapting legacy SLR lenses from any brand.
It's also no mechanical shutter and bursts in the 30+ per second range.
It's also advanced eye-tracking AF.
Please, it's more than newer, bigger, stronger sen... (show quote)


Almost all of those things could go into a DSLR except for the non-mirror, which reduces the weight.

So, in my opinion the advantages of the mirrorless are (1) no mirror slap; (2) smaller and lighter. Not sure 30+ frame rate is an advantage but someone would probably consider it so.

In keeping with the title of this thread, I am expressing my opinion.

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Mar 18, 2024 18:36:54   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Someone is having a field day.

Glad you enjoy it.

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