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Feb 27, 2024 11:14:45   #
FrumCA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Wanna bet?

Just take a close loom at some of these houses that are for sale in Palm Beach, FL.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Palm-Beach_FL/type-single-family-home

Mar-a-Lago was priced at $20 million back in 1981??


"..By all accounts the Post Foundation is selling Mar-a-Lago, the 17.7-acre estate that stretches from the Atlantic Ocean in the front yard to Lake Worth in the back, for no less than $20 million."

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/07/16/garden/post-home-for-sale-for-20.html

https://www.newsweek.com/mar-lago-sale-notice-1981-donald-trump-1872498
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Facts such as these are meaningless to left wing judges and prosecutors.

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Feb 27, 2024 11:15:31   #
FrumCA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
https://www.townhallmail.com/jbthbpdthhqwbthtwtbjdwzmmnwmmtndffjpkbqbrrbfsjb_drrphssghhjftdgsjrjtgg.html?a=b2e3dd7593a75ac3959f6457b1e7d38ad454dacb651fe4e078cbaa8719a91b3b&b=23880339

Dennis

Excellent!! This is a keeper.

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Feb 27, 2024 11:23:16   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Oh my my aren’t you out early this morning spreading lies and bullshit about victimless crimes. Let’s take a look at a few.

Many if not MOST traffic deaths are due to excessive speed. NO victims you say??? You know that right? That sure shoots down your first pile of bullshit.
Parking tickets are issued to maintain correct traffic patterns and to regulate where people park and when. Otherwise people like you would just park anywhere at the expense of the rest of us.

In many states suicide is a crime. I don’t agree with that but it is true. Assisted suicide then would be a crime as it involves taking of a life. The Left doesn’t put much value on a human life but many of us still do.

You bring up drugs as a victimless crime. Your knowledge of drug use or rather your LACK of knowledge is quite obvious. Drugs are very expensive. Many drug users, cocaine, heroin and meth being quite pricey. Users get hooked and their usage increases to the point they can no longer afford their recreational use. You know lil Denny like Addiction. They start stealing from family and then friends until they are committing burglary or worse to pay for drugs. Eventually these recreational users are arrested and need medical care to stop the addiction. Who do you think pays for all of this? I see many victims here with drug usage. How funny you don’t.

Gambling for many is an addiction as well. It also creates a strain on public monies as does drug usage.

You don’t get out much do you? You are constantly stuck at a point I am not allowed to say. But we all know where it is, where you hang out. Don’t you support law and order? Apparently you don’t for Left Wing politicians but only for those on the Right.

Dennis
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So now you claiming a victim in the future tense - what might happen not what “ did “ happen
Obeying the law is not a right or . issue

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Feb 27, 2024 11:33:30   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
smf85 wrote:


You do bring out a good point though - the system is built on trust and there aren’t a whole lot of safeguards built in. Yes, as you said, “shame on them” is very much the case here. Fraud has been an issue that has plagued the whole system from the beginning. I haven’t seen any good solution for it that maintained the market successfully.


To see the end result of misrepresentation of property values one merely has to go back 20 years to the days preceding the near collapse of the American evonomy.

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Feb 27, 2024 11:43:01   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
DennyT wrote:
To see the end result of misrepresentation of property values one merely has to go back 20 years to the days preceding the near collapse of the American evonomy.


That wasn’t misrepresentation of property values, that was misrepresenting who should even own a home in the government’s social engineering scheme (everyone should own a home) and then borrowers using their inflated equity as credit cards (refinancing). That couples with a bit of predatory lending and wala.

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Feb 27, 2024 11:57:56   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Effate wrote:
That wasn’t misrepresentation of property values, that was misrepresenting who should even own a home in the government’s social engineering scheme (everyone should own a home) and then borrowers using their inflated equity as credit cards (refinancing). That couples with a bit of predatory lending and wala.

T
Baloney … look at an appraisers .
Quote trying to blame everything on the government.
To educate yourself type “ 2008 inflated appraisals “””” in google search box

But you’re partly on the money when you stated “””” borrowers using their inflated equity as credit cards (refinancing)”” sound familiar for: trump.

That’s why we have laws.

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Feb 27, 2024 12:11:49   #
smf85 Loc: Freeport, IL
 
Effate wrote:
Based on trust you say. When is the last time you purchased a home and the bank “trusted” you application without verifying?


Actually there’s quite a bit that is trusted to be true by the underwriters. Although that generally isn’t visible to the retail consumer. Two critical pieces of the process are taken on trust - your credit report and the property appraisal. The underwriting agent doesn’t validate either - they’re accepted on their face. And they’re sometimes wrong.

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Feb 27, 2024 12:23:27   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
smf85 wrote:
Actually there’s quite a bit that is trusted to be true by the underwriters. Although that generally isn’t visible to the retail consumer. Two critical pieces of the process are taken on trust - your credit report and the property appraisal. The underwriting agent doesn’t validate either - they’re accepted on their face. And they’re sometimes wrong.


That may be true but either one of your examples, if gotten wrong, doesn’t mean I committed fraud. In my personal experience every property I have purchased the appraisal was done by someone employed/contracted by the lending institution.

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Feb 27, 2024 12:39:14   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
So now you claiming a victim in the future tense - what might happen not what “ did “ happen
Obeying the law is not a right or . issue


What the HELL are you talking about. Laws are created to protect citizens. Of course the laws do not protect citizens in the past tense for the most part do they.

You have just provided proof of your inability to understand simple sentences. Everything I posted is true and anybody with a working brain would understand that is true. But here comes little denny who has to have proof of even the sun rising every day. Be SPECIFIC little denny. Point out exactly what your problem is; show me where I am lying about anything. Your lack of common sense is very enlightening to the rest of us even those on the Left who must also be shaking their heads right now saying to themselves, WTH is little denny thinking of? Of course laws are written to protect the rest of us from speeders, drug abusers and so on.

Here is a large part of what your brain is not able to keep up with. Obeying the laws for common good is a RESPONSIBILITY each of us is charged with for the protection of all of us. It IS an ISSUE though you can't seem to fathom how important an issue it really is. What if all of us drove at high speed with no concern for the safety of others? What if all of us were drug abusers and could not work reliably in high pressure jobs or where the safety of others is concerned. Would you be concerned knowing one of your airline pilots was under the influence of alcohol and the other was stoned out of his mind on heroin and was nodding off?

Are you at all capable of reading posts from others to understand what is being said without jumping to political snap judgements and coming back in a frenzied attack? Are you able to post back with a thoughtful reply ever? It seems you cannot.

Dennis

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Feb 27, 2024 12:49:43   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
To see the end result of misrepresentation of property values one merely has to go back 20 years to the days preceding the near collapse of the American evonomy.


Yeah little denny, brought about by the corrupt Left who told people with no money they could afford high priced homes when it was obvious they could not.

Dennis

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Feb 27, 2024 14:23:38   #
FrumCA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Wanna bet?

Just take a close loom at some of these houses that are for sale in Palm Beach, FL.
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Palm-Beach_FL/type-single-family-home

Mar-a-Lago was priced at $20 million back in 1981??


"..By all accounts the Post Foundation is selling Mar-a-Lago, the 17.7-acre estate that stretches from the Atlantic Ocean in the front yard to Lake Worth in the back, for no less than $20 million."

https://www.nytimes.com/1981/07/16/garden/post-home-for-sale-for-20.html

https://www.newsweek.com/mar-lago-sale-notice-1981-donald-trump-1872498
Wanna bet? br br Just take a close loom at some... (show quote)

There is a property currently for sale in Naples, Florida for $295M. Considering it’s not Trump, what price tag would the judge or prosecutor put on this property? Would they accept it as a legitimate asking price or rule it is intentionally inflated?

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Feb 27, 2024 14:48:30   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
FrumCA wrote:
There is a property currently for sale in Naples, Florida for $295M. Considering it’s not Trump, what price tag would the judge or prosecutor put on this property? Would they accept it as a legitimate asking price or rule it is intentionally inflated?


I can't help but wonder when the charges will be filed against that realtor, equality under the law for all, thoughts of course. Oh wait...the recent applications ONLY apply to Trump and are ONLY applied by those on the Left side of the aisle. Funny how that works out for the Left to limit political opponents and who Conservatives can vote for.

Dennis

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Feb 27, 2024 15:01:28   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
FrumCA wrote:
There is a property currently for sale in Naples, Florida for $295M. Considering it’s not Trump, what price tag would the judge or prosecutor put on this property? Would they accept it as a legitimate asking price or rule it is intentionally inflated?


Let’s not forget the trump evaluation was based on dividing the property and Serling individual parcels. The local zoning board say no to change in zoning . Allowed use of property is a Bigly difference in valuation .

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Feb 27, 2024 16:18:21   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
DennyT wrote:
Let’s not forget the trump evaluation was based on dividing the property and Serling individual parcels. The local zoning board say no to change in zoning . Allowed use of property is a Bigly difference in valuation .


Fact is, look what Larry Ellison paid for his Palm Beach estate, there are properties smaller and less significant that have fetched almost 200 million

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Feb 27, 2024 17:32:38   #
cwp3420
 
DennyT wrote:
Let’s not forget the trump evaluation was based on dividing the property and Serling individual parcels. The local zoning board say no to change in zoning . Allowed use of property is a Bigly difference in valuation .


WTH is Serling individual parcels?

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