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Feb 4, 2024 10:18:16   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
jlg1000 wrote:
Why? The cow can be pasted again into the composition.


Why make extra work for yourself?

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Feb 4, 2024 10:30:12   #
MWojton Loc: Yardley, PA
 
I like how you show the step by step process.

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Feb 4, 2024 11:29:32   #
PhotoMono123 Loc: Houston, Texas
 
Interesting. Another idea to put in my whiz bag.

But I do have a question: What do you mean by "standard cropping?" Is there a particular ratio you want all your images to be?

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Feb 4, 2024 11:41:30   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
PhotoMono123 wrote:
Interesting. Another idea to put in my whiz bag.

But I do have a question: What do you mean by "standard cropping?" Is there a particular ratio you want all your images to be?


Good point. I’d like to know too.

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Feb 4, 2024 12:34:12   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
DWU2 wrote:
Are you a Photoshop CC user? You can now extend the sides of the photo using the AI feature, then crop.


Here's how:
- Open photo in Photoshop CC
- Use crop tool to define expansion area
- Use AI to expand photo into defined area
- Flatten the photo
- Straighten the photo
- Crop the photo

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Feb 4, 2024 12:57:36   #
ELNikkor
 
So many angles in this photo creating optical illusions, hard to make everything look square and straight.

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Feb 4, 2024 14:46:54   #
CaltechNerd Loc: Whittier, CA, USA
 
Longshadow wrote:
Curious - What's the purpose of adding the border then cropping it out?


It's so the white cow isn't cut off. Compare the first cropped photo (with half a white cow) to the last photo. She's got it right.

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Feb 4, 2024 14:53:02   #
srg
 
Orphoto wrote:
Hmmm, thanks for share cropping



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Feb 4, 2024 21:03:24   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
gvarner wrote:
Good point. I’d like to know too.


No, I mean standard as in a frame presenting and moving the sides in to obtain the shot you want. The program I have has several options: 3x4, 4x5 (same as 8x10), 16x9, 3x5, 5x7, Free Form, Original Proportions, Square. I would consider any of these to be a normal crop. A crop that I would consider as not normal would be one where you would have to extend the original photo by cloning in additional information for the photo to be cropped to the measurements you want. When I say cloning, I would also include the fill tool another poster mentioned.

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Feb 4, 2024 21:05:21   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
DWU2 wrote:
Here's how:
- Open photo in Photoshop CC
- Use crop tool to define expansion area
- Use AI to expand photo into defined area
- Flatten the photo
- Straighten the photo
- Crop the photo


Yes, someone else mentioned the fill tool but I'm not using PhotoShop. I use Paintshop Pro which is from Corel.

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Feb 4, 2024 21:16:26   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
jlg1000 wrote:
Why? The cow can be pasted again into the composition.


It could, but now you are talking about some possibly very labor-intensive actions. If the object were a tree or a person with hair flowing out to one side, it would become a chore to cut and paste something like that. Even people I see demonstrate doing that take great care in pushing and expanding the crop to capture as much of the object as possible. If it isn't done with great precision, it looks exactly like what it is -- pasted on. I can do the operation I showed in less than a minute.

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Feb 4, 2024 21:28:03   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
This has been a great discussion and good tips. The issue of straight horizons is a good one. I have seen images posted in photo contests with crooked horizons, so good that people here are looking for that. I have found that turning on the horizon indicator on my cameras and taking the extra second or two to assure it is level saves a lot of grief in processing. Of course it’s not foolproof and knowing tricks like this is still useful, but it helps a lot.

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Feb 5, 2024 12:01:52   #
Bubalola Loc: Big Apple, NY
 
Bridges wrote:
I know there are people on here much more experienced in PP than I am, and also know there are other ways to accomplish what is needed to preserve a photo the way the maker wants it to look. This is something I do to get to the end result. It is quick and easy and can be done in about a minute.

Problem 1: The photo is not straight
Problem 2: Cropping the shot in a traditional manner will result in cutting off part of the white cow on the left side of the shot.

Photo 1 -- original shot
Photo 2 -- original shot with standard cropping
Photo 3 -- original shot with added border
Photo 4 -- crop after border is applied
Photo 5 -- additional crop to get the final look
Photo 6 -- finished photo after cloning in some grass in the lower left corner to eliminate the black triangle left
from the final crop. Additional PP to boost color and eliminate noise.

I hope this will help a few people to save a shot or two. I have used it to keep a face from being cut in half and for other shots like the one posted. While this isn't a wonderful photo or a wall-hanger, it served as a good example of this technique I use for cropping.
I know there are people on here much more experien... (show quote)



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Feb 5, 2024 17:45:01   #
Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
 
Bridges wrote:
I know there are people on here much more experienced in PP than I am, and also know there are other ways to accomplish what is needed to preserve a photo the way the maker wants it to look. This is something I do to get to the end result. It is quick and easy and can be done in about a minute.

Problem 1: The photo is not straight
Problem 2: Cropping the shot in a traditional manner will result in cutting off part of the white cow on the left side of the shot.

Photo 1 -- original shot
Photo 2 -- original shot with standard cropping
Photo 3 -- original shot with added border
Photo 4 -- crop after border is applied
Photo 5 -- additional crop to get the final look
Photo 6 -- finished photo after cloning in some grass in the lower left corner to eliminate the black triangle left
from the final crop. Additional PP to boost color and eliminate noise.

I hope this will help a few people to save a shot or two. I have used it to keep a face from being cut in half and for other shots like the one posted. While this isn't a wonderful photo or a wall-hanger, it served as a good example of this technique I use for cropping.
I know there are people on here much more experien... (show quote)


I do the same thing. When you try the architectural filters it makes it worse. Looks like all great minds think alike. You can also use the clone stamp to move the cow to the right, then use it again to erase the "first cow".

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