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Jan 29, 2024 13:39:47   #
coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA
 
The prop movement does not designate a very slow shutter speed.
So the photos are out of focus or camera movement.
Very soft for some reason.
This photo was shot with my 80-400mm and D850. I cropped in tight.



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Jan 29, 2024 14:12:58   #
blthomas438 Loc: Lewisberry Pennsylvania
 
Harry P wrote:
Hello,
If you have seen me before on here, you will know that I shoot aviation. I currently own my late grandfathers D5100 and I am currently saving up to upgrade to a full frame D780, however I just learned about how much detail you lose when cropping on a full frame vs a crop sensor. If anyone owns a D780 (or at least the D750 as the D780 only has like 0.3+ mp more than the D750) for airshows, what is the quality like when you crop in vs the D850.

My plan was to save up for the D780 with the kit lens but if it looks like the D850 is gonna be better, im just gonna get the body. I use a Sigma 150-600mm C for aviation and I have currently got 1 UHS-II card 128gb intended for the D780.

lemme know your thoughts,

Thank You
Hello, br If you have seen me before on here, you ... (show quote)

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Jan 29, 2024 14:14:43   #
coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA
 
Here is another D850 shot taken plane to plane.

About 30% crop with my 24-120mm lens.



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Jan 29, 2024 14:32:47   #
blthomas438 Loc: Lewisberry Pennsylvania
 
Hi Harry,
You Definitely want to get the D850. The 47mp resolution alone is worth it. I have the same Sigma lens and I have taken fantastic photos of the moon and aircraft. I got my D850 from B&H last year. When they had a great promotion. It is the best Nikon camera I have ever owned. I have a part time Photography business. Wedding, portraits and head shots. My other camera is a D500 and it was my main camera. Till I got the D850. It's incredible It's built like a tank and fully weather sealed. I have the MB D-18 battery grip on mine and the Ergonomics are excellent, plus the weight of the camera helps give better balance when using long lenses. I have been a Nikon camera user since 1979 when I got the photo bug in High School and got the Nikon FE as my first SLR.
You will love the 850 worth every penny.
Take care and good luck.

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Jan 29, 2024 14:35:48   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
blthomas438 wrote:
Hi Harry,
You Definitely want to get the D850. The 47mp resolution alone is worth it. I have the same Sigma lens and I have taken fantastic photos of the moon and aircraft. I got my D850 from B&H last year. When they had a great promotion. It is the best Nikon camera I have ever owned. I have a part time Photography business. Wedding, portraits and head shots. My other camera is a D500 and it was my main camera. Till I got the D850. It's incredible It's built like a tank and fully weather sealed. I have the MB D-18 battery grip on mine and the Ergonomics are excellent, plus the weight of the camera helps give better balance when using long lenses. I have been a Nikon camera user since 1979 when I got the photo bug in High School and got the Nikon FE as my first SLR.
You will love the 850 worth every penny.
Take care and good luck.
Hi Harry, br You Definitely want to get the D850.... (show quote)


Or, just a newer DX upgrade, to pick up more pixel resolution in a smaller body, to pick up a bigger buffer, and to pick up an improved AF system, all at a fraction of the cost of a D850....

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Jan 29, 2024 14:39:29   #
Harry P Loc: United Kingdom
 
blthomas438 wrote:
Hi Harry,
You Definitely want to get the D850. The 47mp resolution alone is worth it. I have the same Sigma lens and I have taken fantastic photos of the moon and aircraft. I got my D850 from B&H last year. When they had a great promotion. It is the best Nikon camera I have ever owned. I have a part time Photography business. Wedding, portraits and head shots. My other camera is a D500 and it was my main camera. Till I got the D850. It's incredible It's built like a tank and fully weather sealed. I have the MB D-18 battery grip on mine and the Ergonomics are excellent, plus the weight of the camera helps give better balance when using long lenses. I have been a Nikon camera user since 1979 when I got the photo bug in High School and got the Nikon FE as my first SLR.
You will love the 850 worth every penny.
Take care and good luck.
Hi Harry, br You Definitely want to get the D850.... (show quote)


I already own a Sandisk extreme pro 128gb UHS-II SD Card, Do you know what the max write speed that the D850 can write data to a UHS-II card? the D780 can do up to about 250MB/S. So I am just curious If I would be fine sticking with UHS-II cards or going for the XQD. I have seen that XQD has ridiculously high read and writes but would that only really be required for 4K video recording and is the regular UHS-II cards perfect for the stills?

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Jan 29, 2024 14:53:26   #
coolhanduke Loc: Redondo Beach, CA
 
I use a Delkin Devices BLACK 128GB SDXC V30 UHS-1 card and a Sony XQD G64 GB R:400mb's and W:400mb's card as the secondary card.
I have had both cards since I bought the D850 which is one of the first ones.
Although I should upgrade my SD card, I have not had any issues with the cards. I shoot a lot on the highest FPS I can get.
It might get backed up after about 30-45 frames but by then, I have captured what I need. That is shooting in jpeg.

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Jan 29, 2024 15:03:27   #
blthomas438 Loc: Lewisberry Pennsylvania
 
I use XQD cards a 32, 64, 128s they are great for the photo I take, Especially since on the D850 I shoot raw only and each photo file is huge. I Do also use a Sandisc Ultra extreme pro SD for Back up. The D850 can also use CFS cards. I would recommend getting either a XQD or CFS card and use the SD cards for overflow or back up. The XQD of CFS cards are super fast and for action photography where I use continuous bursts of shots there great. I plan to attend the Atlantic City Airshow this year. When those plans go buy I am going to shoot continuous burts. At 7fps I can't wait to see the results. Thanks for contacting me back, I will answer any questions you want. Take care.

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Jan 29, 2024 15:57:11   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Or, just a newer DX upgrade, to pick up more pixel resolution in a smaller body, to pick up a bigger buffer, and to pick up an improved AF system, all at a fraction of the cost of a D850....


Yes, like the 7500 ......use it with the very sharp and lightweight Tamron 100-400 for fast handling ....

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Jan 29, 2024 16:15:58   #
huyenguyen408
 
go rent one camera and try for a week or so, then make your own decision. Have you tried D500 ?

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Jan 30, 2024 08:30:36   #
Flickwet Loc: NEOhio
 
Bill_de wrote:
With a smaller sensor from the same position, you won't have to crop as much.

Six of one, half dozen of the other

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Better to have the megapixels and not need them, than to need the megapixels and not have them, by that I mean, D850, I would recommend the D500 only if you did birds due to the autofocus, but the D850 gives you all that and more pixels than you will ever need. I shoot Jpeg med (27mgpix) and they are exquisite. The downsizing of the jpeg reduces noise as a design bonus!

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Jan 30, 2024 08:42:40   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Harry P wrote:
Hello,
If you have seen me before on here, you will know that I shoot aviation. I currently own my late grandfathers D5100 and I am currently saving up to upgrade to a full frame D780, however I just learned about how much detail you lose when cropping on a full frame vs a crop sensor. If anyone owns a D780 (or at least the D750 as the D780 only has like 0.3+ mp more than the D750) for airshows, what is the quality like when you crop in vs the D850.

My plan was to save up for the D780 with the kit lens but if it looks like the D850 is gonna be better, im just gonna get the body. I use a Sigma 150-600mm C for aviation and I have currently got 1 UHS-II card 128gb intended for the D780.

lemme know your thoughts,

Thank You
Hello, br If you have seen me before on here, you ... (show quote)


Are you talking shooting in crop mode or cropping in post? Shooting in crop with the D850 will give you 20mp if I remember correctly. If you're considering the D780, you might want to look at the Z6II, (or wait for the rumored Z6III) or get the ZF. The ZF should have a superior AF & video capabilities.

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Jan 30, 2024 09:41:44   #
Harry P Loc: United Kingdom
 
tcthome wrote:
Are you talking shooting in crop mode or cropping in post? Shooting in crop with the D850 will give you 20mp if I remember correctly. If you're considering the D780, you might want to look at the Z6II, (or wait for the rumored Z6III) or get the ZF. The ZF should have a superior AF & video capabilities.


cropping in post

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Jan 30, 2024 13:58:16   #
Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio
 
Harry P wrote:
so on that basis, I would be great going with the D780? I struggle to find a load of posts online showing what the detail is like for the D780 when cropped in. a massive concern I have with going mirrorless when I own Nikon F lenses is the battery life of mirrorless and I think i little bit more importantly; Using a Mount adapter to use my lenses on a Z body, if autofocusing works at all or if there is focus speed lag.


Get a D500 and a sigma 300-800mm f5.6 constant aperture and a good tripod and gimbal head. The lens and the camera will let you crop at a minimum.

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Jan 30, 2024 14:19:01   #
Flickwet Loc: NEOhio
 
My first choice $ no object, D850 and 80-400 lens, second choice would be D500 with the 200-500, For the record I have the D850 and the AF-D 80-400, but I use the 80-400 solely on my D300S. Cuz I'm cheap and I don't want to damage expensive equipment on my travails



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