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Jan 29, 2024 07:59:44   #
BebuLamar
 
Rich2236 wrote:
To be honest, Red6, no, I have not priced a Lexus SUV. We, (my wife and I,) are very happy with our 2017 Hyundai, Tucson. LOL, at my age, why bother with a new car...


Yes to me $94,000 is a lot of money for a vehicle but it seems a rather normal price for a pickup truck these days.

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Jan 29, 2024 08:03:09   #
Red6
 
Rich2236 wrote:
To be honest, Red6, no, I have not priced a Lexus SUV. We, (my wife and I,) are very happy with our 2017 Hyundai, Tucson. LOL, at my age, why bother with a new car...


Agree 100%. We have not bought a new car in many years. We are still driving our 2011 model (purchased used) and will for a while.

Had a good friend that worked at a Lexus dealership. He was telling me the costs of their new vehicles and they always had a waiting list for most models. It amazes me that people have that kind of money to spend on a vehicle.

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Jan 29, 2024 09:16:56   #
FrumCA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I was driving behind a Rivian truck yesterday. I had never heard of that brand. It seems very risky to buy a new brand of EV. Even the big-name car makers are having trouble selling their EVs

https://rivian.com/

Rivian has been around for about 25 years.

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Jan 29, 2024 10:00:35   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
I pull into a gas station on a road trip and I'm out in 15 minutes for the next 300 miles - My son-in-law with his EV has 150 miles range and takes 2 hours to charge. I'll keep my methods.

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Jan 29, 2024 10:13:28   #
Rich2236 Loc: E. Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
Shellback wrote:
I pull into a gas station on a road trip and I'm out in 15 minutes for the next 300 miles - My son-in-law with his EV has 150 miles range and takes 2 hours to charge. I'll keep my methods.


I'm with you Shellback. I do keep watch on my mileage and I'm getting approximately 27 to 33 mpg of gas. I think that compares favorably with anything else. Somewhere, I heard or read something about oil being able to replenish itself. If true, then I will stick to what I have. LOL.

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Jan 29, 2024 10:17:21   #
Drb68 Loc: Utah
 
I see Rivian trucks and SUVa daily in SLC. Not my cup of tea.

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Jan 29, 2024 10:22:43   #
bbrown5154 Loc: Baltimore, MD
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I was driving behind a Rivian truck yesterday. I had never heard of that brand. It seems very risky to buy a new brand of EV. Even the big-name car makers are having trouble selling their EVs

https://rivian.com/


Better than being in front of them at night. That light bar across the front is super bright and annoying.

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Jan 29, 2024 10:54:32   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
I guess those that dig deep in their wallets and pay a $100k plus for an EV vehicle of any kind likely aren’t worried about the weight or range they see. Nor the fact they may see significantly less mileage out of their tires. A few months ago I bought new tires from a nearby Costco. Standing in line, the buyer (65-75 yrs young) in front of me was lamenting about having to buy tires for his Tesla. He said something like, “I’ll be back later.” And I stepped up to the counter. The Costco tire guy was smiling and said something like, “the company is selling a lot tires to these EV owners. All that torque is leaving rubber on the road and they are here with less than 30k miles and wonder why.”

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Jan 29, 2024 10:59:09   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
Rich2236 wrote:
Everything is SO beautiful, until you get to the price! $94,000 and up is a little steep for 90% of the people.



You are forgetting the real issue and that is the batteries freeze up so you cannot drive them. $90,000 for a door stop is no little deal.

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Jan 29, 2024 11:07:13   #
Rich2236 Loc: E. Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
paulrph1 wrote:
You are forgetting the real issue and that is the batteries freeze up so you cannot drive them. $90,000 for a door stop is no little deal.


You are so right! I didn't think about that aspect. AND, batteries for those vehicles cost an "arm and a leg."

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Jan 29, 2024 12:00:20   #
lbrande
 
yorkiebyte wrote:
I'll stick wit' my 1995 Tacoma, thank you!


We have a 2015 Tundra with a 5.7L engine. Great truck that will easily pull a trailer with 3 16 hand horses for 250 miles without issue.

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Jan 29, 2024 13:09:22   #
MrPhotog
 
Rich2236 wrote:
Everything is SO beautiful, until you get to the price! $94,000 and up is a little steep for 90% of the people.


For most people, absolutely !

But for a large enough group of customers the fuel savings and tax benefits make it much cheaper to operate. When leased by a business (even a one-person small business) the annual cost of operation is the important amount to consider.

People enthusiastically buy (or lease) semi tractors that cost $150 k. On a good day they might get 7 to 7.5 miles per gallon. Over a drivers typical 450 to 500 mile day they burn 60 to 70 gallons, but if they are used for two shifts they use 60 to 140 gallons a day. At $4 a gallon for diesel fuel, and just 100 gallons used a day, in a typical year they burn over $100,000 in fuel. The fuel price is 4 times the lease rate, 5 times the finance costs of buying, and 6 times the final cost of the truck after it is sold. Electricity isn’t free, or even cheap, but it is a lot cheaper than burning oil.

There is a very close relationship in this to photography and the photo industry: as electronic imaging replaced film the cost per shot dropped even as the cost per camera climbed. For studios that was the amount they looked at. For amateurs it was a blessing— to get one good shot of a bird in flight they could a 10 second burst of 5 frames a second for almost nothing. Save the good frames and reuse the memory card again and again. Compare that to $20 a roll for film and processing (if you can find it that cheap).

Pros and serious amateurs can, and will, buy the more expensive gear, and still end up spending less money and time on each picture this year than 20 years ago. If you do a lot of photo work, it can sometimes be more economical (per picture, and over the long run) to buy more expensive gear.

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Jan 29, 2024 13:23:24   #
RKastner Loc: Davenport, FL
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I was driving behind a Rivian truck yesterday. I had never heard of that brand. It seems very risky to buy a new brand of EV. Even the big-name car makers are having trouble selling their EVs

https://rivian.com/


They've been around for a few years. I've seen them around the Orlando area. I first heard of them watching Ewan McGregor in Long Way Up in 2020. His support vehicles were Rivians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Way_Up

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Jan 29, 2024 15:14:49   #
J. Cricket Loc: Ft Collins, Colorado
 
My son had use of one for awhile - gave me a ride in it. Holy cow are those things fast!

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Jan 29, 2024 15:15:52   #
glennk
 
Wife & I saw a Cybertruck last Friday at Costco Santa Cruz CA. Had the paper new car plate on it.
All I can say is that it's "unique"...

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