Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA

No thanks. I don't care for $95k golf carts. I will stick to my 2000 F350 4x4 Crew Cab Dually. Rolling coal and loving it. Clean, beautiful burning coal.
My beast pulled a 33' 5th wheel all across 10 western states and Canada without any problems and no recharge required. Truck has 125k on it and will go another 200k before a major overhaul.

Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands

How's that? Batteries of an EV can't just freeze up. If they do you wouldn't be able to start an ICE either. If you happen to live in such a cold area you have to take precautions, no matter what car you drive...

OldCADuser Loc: Irvine, CA

We see a lot of Rivians here in Irvine, CA since this is where their corporate headquarters is located. As for their future, in addition to the pickup trucks you see on the street, they also won the contract to supply Amazon with their fleet of zero-emissions delivery trucks, a few of which I've seen here in the area.

Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.

Not quite 25.

Dean37 Loc: Fresno, CA

I'm not a fan of electric, battery powered trucks due to what I have seen with people that I know who have temporarily had them.

One bought a Rivian which supposedly has a 400+mile range which was what he needed for his small business. The first weekend he had it he charged overnight to be sure it was ready to go Saturday morning. He hooked up his 22 foot boat loaded the necessities for the weekend a started for the lake in the mountains about 60 miles away.

A couple of hours later a friend of his came and borrowed my portable 10kw generator because there are no charging facilities at the lake and the truck was almost without battery power. A 400+ mile range out of battery power 60 miles away???

He was able to tow his boat back after recharging and went to an ICE truck dealer, took his losses and got rid of the Battery powered truck in favor of a new 3/4 ton diesel pickup. He said in his business he has to have a truck he can rely on at all times. He does have a trailer he tows much of the time.

Incidentally the service vehicles the Tesla uses are ICE because they have to be ready to go at all times to take care of the Teslas and they carry and use a portable ICE power generator for recharging. [ICE = Internal Combustion Engine]. That should tell us something.

Some friends an family live about 150 miles away and in the last year and a half a couple of them acquired Teslas. The have a range of about 340 miles and at first they thought the could drive to see us and return home with no problem then plug it in and ready to go the next morning.

Nope, reality set in the range of the cars must be being determined with a 120 pound driver alone in an otherwise empty car on flat roads with a constant 70 to 80 degree temperature and travelling at 40 miles per hour. Maybe add in a 20 mph tail wind.

The don't come to visit very often anymore because they have to recharge for an hour before they can get home. The don't want to use a couple of local recharging stations because they use a diesel powered generator for recharging.

Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands

60 miles instead of 400? In spite of the fact he was towing a boat on a trailer, this is very, very unlikely.
Did he forget to release the trailer brake?

What kind of EV was it? What was the weight of the trailer / boat? How many times did he fully stop on his way? What is his driving style? Too many unknown factors to make this factual.

Swifty Loc: Canfield Ohio

Older is better. No fancy electronics to mess with.

Dean37 Loc: Fresno, CA

It is a fact!
The lake is in the mountains at about 5,300 feet and we are around 300 feet elevation, there are at least 25 major hills to ascend, maybe 30. The truck was loaded for a weekend of camping. It was a Rivian. His family, wife and 3 adult kids were in it. The boat and trailer exceed 10,000 pounds, and he drives every day so he is conscious of speed.

The EV manufacturers use ideal conditions for their mile estimates, like a 120 pound driver, flat roads, no hills, 60° F to 70° F, temperature ,speed about 40 mph, nothing in the truck except the driver and with a 20 mph tail wind.

fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH

After a year+ wait, my Son-in-Law told delivery of one he's used for about 6 months, now. I've ridden in it a number of times an it rides and handles like a fairly heavy truck. I don't entirely understand torque curves but he had at about 45 mph and floored it whereupon it accelerated like a Porsche going up to 70 in about 3 seconds. He took it up to Maine and back without charging, a round trip of about 220 miles and it still had plenty of charge left in the batteries.

It's impressive but very, very pricey and my Son-in-Law normally uses it to commute to his office about 10 minutes away. Personally, I can think of better ways to spend $90,000 for a commuting vehicle.

Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands

That kind of explains it a bit. The trailer being that heavy will cost a lot of energy going up. You can't gain back a lot of energy during a descend assuming the trailer brake will kick in...Normally you would "engine" break, recharging your battery very quickly...

Eyes Loc: Buffalo, NY

EXACTLY right!!
I prefer the more "normal" side of things .... can be translated to: Useful!

Carl

Stan Wieg Loc: Fair Oaks, CA

For the folks concerned about towing capacity, check out the Pebble Stream camping trailer. It looks like what an Airstream wants to be when it grows up. It has a battery pack that pushes it along in order to save your EV’s range, or tits it be towed by a smaller vehicle. And a smart system (controlled from your phone) that hitches/unhitches itself and backs into the parking spot by itself. Just over $100k - but a new anything ain’t cheap…

lbrande

We towed a 27 foot sailboat from Longmont CO to Truth and Consequences NM. The trailer and boat were about 12,000 lbs. The truck is a twin turbo diesel. An electric truck won't work.

GregS Loc: Central Illinois, USA

Rivan isn't new. Rivan plant is located in my home town, Normal, IL. They are also building a plant in Atlanta, Ga.
They are the largest vehicle manfacture in the US; not volume, but what they are worth.
They have a 100,000 vehicle contract with Amazon to build electric delivery vans. There are hundreds on their lot waiting to be delivered. I have seen them in Portland, Or, and now Pensacola, FL. Will be used in the big cities.
The van is now released to be used by other delivery companies.
Also, the only EV company with 3 working assembly lines for vans, SUV's, and pickup trucks.

mr spock Loc: Fairfield CT

I'm with you. Have a 2005 Tacoma that, unfortunatley is in much worse shape than your 1995. Yours is in amazing shape. Mine has never seen the inside of a garage and still starts every morning whether its 10 degrees or 100 degrees outside