Ugly Hedgehog - Photography Forum
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main Photography Discussion
Work the scene - Find the angles
Page <prev 2 of 4 next> last>>
Dec 23, 2023 04:49:30   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Most of the time, finding the angle is synonymous with finding the story that you want to tell. Even small changes to composition can have a significant effect on the storyline.

Where the storyline is concerned, one of the main factors is how the viewers' attention is directed and what it's directed towards. That is one of the main considerations for those who are good at producing good results, and it's why composition is key to producing good results.

There are people who poo-poo the whole idea of storytelling but the problem is they just don't appreciate or understand how that concept applies to most of what we shoot, one way or another. Even things like documentary and product photography can fall into that category.

Reply
Dec 23, 2023 14:31:34   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
R.G. wrote:
Most of the time, finding the angle is synonymous with finding the story that you want to tell. Even small changes to composition can have a significant effect on the storyline.

Where the storyline is concerned, one of the main factors is how the viewers' attention is directed and what it's directed towards. That is one of the main considerations for those who are good at producing good results, and it's why composition is key to producing good results.

There are people who poo-poo the whole idea of storytelling but the problem is they just don't appreciate or understand how that concept applies to most of what we shoot, one way or another. Even things like documentary and product photography can fall into that category.
Most of the time, finding the angle is synonymous ... (show quote)


In general, making a hero is what I aim for, but I would readily make a story photo if I see one, and here are some of my favorites:

Covid

The road ahead
The road ahead...

Fate-Faith
Fate-Faith...

Reply
Dec 23, 2023 14:36:36   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Wallen wrote:
There are many ways to make a good photo.
Creating them can be a process of actually composing for the shoot, i.e. fashion shoots/wedding pre-nups & product shoot (sample photo here and how its done here),
to finding little gems in the noise & editing (example here and here )
but mostly, even with the above examples, the secret is finding the angles and working the scene.

Here is a typical snap shot:


here is the same area from the opposite direction:

In both examples, we get humdrums meh images.

But if we work the scene and shoot a different angle, we can get this aesthethically better photo.


Which may even be better if we were using a lens with a narrower FOV, as mocked-up here:

It is the same spot, just looking at it from a different angle and perhaps with a different aperture.

What makes this image work?
Lots of reasons, but mainly, we eliminated the uncecessary parts. The uglies, the noise the distractions and kept only the parts that work together.

Here is another angle of the same area:

Again a humdrum image and more so, there is my shadow!

So again we try to find a better angle. In this case I had to sit down while keeping the phone up and zoom a bit so that the side verticals do not appear and make an imaginary wider space.


Next time you shoot, find the angles. There might be a better composition hiding in that noise. Pehaps a diamond amongst the coals.

Happy shooting!

.
There are many ways to make a good photo. br Crea... (show quote)

That’s how I’ve always photographed, why my wife has always had reading material with her for those times when a “5 minute photo stop” took 30 minutes as I searched for a good perspective.

Reply
 
 
Dec 23, 2023 14:43:25   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
rehess wrote:
That’s how I’ve always photographed, why my wife has always had reading material with her for those times when a “5 minute photo stop” took 30 minutes as I searched for a good perspective.


Ha ha, that is one thing my other half always complain about when we are together and I would take photos.

Reply
Dec 23, 2023 14:51:07   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Wallen wrote:
Ha ha, that is one thing my other half always complain about when we are together and I would take photos.

I behaved that way when we first met, so she knew she would be happy only by adjusting, because I certainly wouldn’t. She has even returned from business trips with suggestions where I might photograph. This Spring, we will have been married 45 years.

Reply
Dec 23, 2023 15:13:14   #
User ID
 
Wallen wrote:
I recommend you do that with an approaching truck.
Then tell us again that head on is the best way to go.


(Download)

Reply
Dec 23, 2023 15:16:26   #
User ID
 
Wallen wrote:
In general, making a hero is what I aim for, but I would readily make a story photo if I see one, and here are some of my favorites:

Covid

Excellent examples of squared up and head-on views. Put the view into the scene.

Reply
 
 
Dec 23, 2023 15:17:58   #
User ID
 
Wallen wrote:
I recommend you do that with an approaching truck.
Then tell us again that head on is the best way to go.

Awwwww ... truth pains you. Get a bandaid.

Reply
Dec 23, 2023 15:19:19   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
User ID wrote:
Visual proof right there by the OP that if it sucks when framed squarely head on, just messing with the angles aint gonna save it.

Shoot head on or go home.

Different angles really can make a big difference. That is one of the first things I learned when I started photographing with my “Instamatic 100”.

Reply
Dec 23, 2023 15:32:35   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
rehess wrote:
I behaved that way when we first met, so she knew she would be happy only by adjusting, because I certainly wouldn’t. She has even returned from business trips with suggestions where I might photograph. This Spring, we will have been married 45 years.



Reply
Dec 23, 2023 15:34:24   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
User ID wrote:
Awwwww ... truth pains you. Get a bandaid.


Contradicting your own thoughts? You wanted a head-on go get it.

Reply
 
 
Dec 23, 2023 15:42:52   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
User ID wrote:
Excellent examples of squared up and head-on views. Put the view into the scene.


First of all, thats the rear, Thats not head on.
Second, its not square. Neither in shape nor square-on in view.

Either your blind or your failing even at trolling now.



Reply
Dec 23, 2023 17:37:57   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Wallen wrote:
.... In general, making a hero is what I aim for, but I would readily make a story photo if I see one....


Not quite sure what the difference between making a hero and making a story is. I'm assuming that making a hero doesn't just apply to people shots, so is it taking anthropomorphism to a whole new level?

Reply
Dec 23, 2023 18:31:08   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
Wallen wrote:
Great advise. thanks for sharing.



Reply
Dec 23, 2023 18:51:56   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
R.G. wrote:
Not quite sure what the difference between making a hero and making a story is. I'm assuming that making a hero doesn't just apply to people shots, so is it taking anthropomorphism to a whole new level?


Actually the hero thing works best with product shoots. Its about making the subject be more than life. Not exactly anthro, just making the subject as solid and strong as it can be, stand out & everything around it as support.

If I need to hero a story shot, then it would be trying to nail it that there would not be any other interpretation.

Reply
Page <prev 2 of 4 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main Photography Discussion
UglyHedgehog.com - Forum
Copyright 2011-2024 Ugly Hedgehog, Inc.