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Dec 20, 2023 11:06:16   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
There are many ways to make a good photo.
Creating them can be a process of actually composing for the shoot, i.e. fashion shoots/wedding pre-nups & product shoot (sample photo here and how its done here),
to finding little gems in the noise & editing (example here and here )
but mostly, even with the above examples, the secret is finding the angles and working the scene.

Here is a typical snap shot:


here is the same area from the opposite direction:

In both examples, we get humdrums meh images.




But if we work the scene and shoot a different angle, we can get this aesthethically better photo.




Which may even be better if we were using a lens with a narrower FOV, as mocked-up here:

It is the same spot, just looking at it from a different angle and perhaps with a different aperture.

What makes this image work?
Lots of reasons, but mainly, we eliminated the uncecessary parts. The uglies, the noise the distractions and kept only the parts that work together.


Here is another angle of the same area:

Again a humdrum image and more so, there is my shadow!



So again we try to find a better angle. In this case I had to sit down while keeping the phone up and zoom a bit so that the side verticals do not appear and make an imaginary wider space.


Next time you shoot, find the angles. There might be a better composition hiding in that noise. Pehaps a diamond amongst the coals.

Happy shooting!

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Dec 20, 2023 13:32:59   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
Totally agree. The angle makes the picture. It is important to do this. All the post processing in the world can't make up for this.

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Dec 20, 2023 13:36:48   #
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Dec 20, 2023 19:06:28   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
Agree 100%. Different angles will yield a totally different image. Good tip Wallen.

Don

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Dec 20, 2023 22:08:11   #
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Wallen wrote:
There are many ways to make a good photo.
Creating them can be a process of actually composing for the shoot, i.e. fashion shoots/wedding pre-nups & product shoot (sample photo here and how its done here),
to finding little gems in the noise & editing (example here and here )
but mostly, even with the above examples, the secret is finding the angles and working the scene.

Here is a typical snap shot:


here is the same area from the opposite direction:

In both examples, we get humdrums meh images.




But if we work the scene and shoot a different angle, we can get this aesthethically better photo.




Which may even be better if we were using a lens with a narrower FOV, as mocked-up here:

It is the same spot, just looking at it from a different angle and perhaps with a different aperture.

What makes this image work?
Lots of reasons, but mainly, we eliminated the uncecessary parts. The uglies, the noise the distractions and kept only the parts that work together.


Here is another angle of the same area:

Again a humdrum image and more so, there is my shadow!



So again we try to find a better angle. In this case I had to sit down while keeping the phone up and zoom a bit so that the side verticals do not appear and make an imaginary wider space.


Next time you shoot, find the angles. There might be a better composition hiding in that noise. Pehaps a diamond amongst the coals.

Happy shooting!

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There are many ways to make a good photo. br Crea... (show quote)


Visual proof right there by the OP that if it sucks when framed squarely head on, just messing with the angles aint gonna save it.

Shoot head on or go home.

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Dec 20, 2023 23:36:37   #
b top gun
 
Different angles or...changing your point of view; I had major experiences with this in Alaska in September. Change your point of view and get a totally different result. Denali, THE mountain itself, was fully exposed on Sept 26th, it was already on the horizon from the town of Willow; thought I got some very good images of the mountain from around 50 miles away; drove up the highway and got a completely different view of the Alaska Range and Denali. From 50 miles away the south peak dominated the landscape; up the highway not far from the entrance to the national park and preserve I got a totally different view; both the south and the north peaks and the saddle between were plainly visible; the shots from the second view were sleepers until I got home and put them on my computer monitor.

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Dec 21, 2023 11:36:41   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
User ID wrote:
Visual proof right there by the OP that if it sucks when framed squarely head on, just messing with the angles aint gonna save it.

Shoot head on or go home.


I recommend you do that with an approaching truck.
Then tell us again that head on is the best way to go.

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Dec 21, 2023 11:37:54   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
b top gun wrote:
Different angles or...changing your point of view; I had major experiences with this in Alaska in September. Change your point of view and get a totally different result. Denali, THE mountain itself, was fully exposed on Sept 26th, it was already on the horizon from the town of Willow; thought I got some very good images of the mountain from around 50 miles away; drove up the highway and got a completely different view of the Alaska Range and Denali. From 50 miles away the south peak dominated the landscape; up the highway not far from the entrance to the national park and preserve I got a totally different view; both the south and the north peaks and the saddle between were plainly visible; the shots from the second view were sleepers until I got home and put them on my computer monitor.
Different angles or...changing your point of view;... (show quote)



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Dec 21, 2023 15:02:40   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Wallen wrote:
I recommend you do that with an approaching truck.
Then tell us again that head on is the best way to go.



And that out of focus is cool!

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Dec 21, 2023 15:30:47   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
revhen wrote:
Totally agree. The angle makes the picture. It is important to do this. All the post processing in the world can't make up for this.


It would help your demonstration if you posted examples that aren’t humdrum snapshots.

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Dec 21, 2023 16:50:52   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
in photography classes we were to find a tree stump. Then shoot it from every angle. submit all the pix and choose which you liked best and why. I shot it from above looking down which was my fave shot. I was the only one that shot a stump looking down. but yes angles and position make a difference

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Dec 21, 2023 19:19:07   #
goofybruce
 
wonder what a close-up from below-flower-level with that building as a background would look like.... Angles go up & down, too. Great pictures and tutorial about 'working the scene.' An old newspaper photographer once told me that when I got to a scene, "Remember, get your job-saving shot quick; then go for the pay-raise shot."

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Dec 22, 2023 10:03:16   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
goofybruce wrote:
wonder what a close-up from below-flower-level with that building as a background would look like.... Angles go up & down, too. Great pictures and tutorial about 'working the scene.' An old newspaper photographer once told me that when I got to a scene, "Remember, get your job-saving shot quick; then go for the pay-raise shot."


Great advise. thanks for sharing.

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Dec 22, 2023 10:06:37   #
Wallen Loc: Middle Earth
 
bdk wrote:
in photography classes we were to find a tree stump. Then shoot it from every angle. submit all the pix and choose which you liked best and why. I shot it from above looking down which was my fave shot. I was the only one that shot a stump looking down. but yes angles and position make a difference


Oftentimes it is the unusual point of view that really stands out from the rest.

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Dec 22, 2023 12:58:56   #
Nigel7 Loc: Worcestershire. UK.
 

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