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Dec 19, 2023 09:18:45   #
Cubanphoto
 
Try to explain, your camera takes the picture as it is then buy her mirror

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Dec 19, 2023 09:37:26   #
Bubbee Loc: Aventura, Florida
 
Why did her friend print and post the picture without her permission?
Why didn't the 92 year old tell you immediately?
I, too, am 92 and have always been vain and taken good care of my skin, so I've been lucky in the wrinkle department ... But it is what it is and photos show every flaw! I think you should apologize and offer to take a single with softer lighting and some post processing...and heavier makeup.
I have a beautiful Granddaughter-in-law whose approval is necessary before sharing pix, and I'm careful with the other.
I'm very careful when I share my pix.
Happily, my 2 year-old Great-Grandson just smiles and goes on playing while I shoot away!

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Dec 19, 2023 09:40:36   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
It sounds like she might be one of those people you couldn't please if you shot a hundred pictures of her.
It's always sad to lose a friend but I'll bet you can live without her friendship.
My dad once asked "How many negative personalities do you need in your life?" He told me that when you lose a friend, you should quietly say to yourself "I got along without you before I met you, I can get along without you now."

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Dec 19, 2023 09:55:53   #
Housty Loc: Ontario
 
Tell her you will retake the photo and do a soft focus also maybe a little photoshop. Hay she is 92 just make her happy.

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Dec 19, 2023 10:20:31   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
Vanity has no age limits, I suppose. And cameras don’t lie. You did what was asked of you. If you think her friendship is worth it, have a UHHer work the print to soften her aging lines and give that one to her. You might consider replacing the one in the City Hall gallery with the edited image, too, only if you think the relationship is worth salvaging.

Stan

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Dec 19, 2023 10:25:25   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Ellen101 wrote:
I take my Nikon camera and cell phone everywhere. I often run into what I think might be a good shot. I always ask permision to take someone's picture.
Here is what I am now dealing with: Recenty two older women ( ages 81 ans 92) asked me to take their photos for a project they were doing. I replied "Sure", They came to my home where i have some plain background set ups.
The shoot went well. They wanted themselves in a very close up pose cheek to cheek.
One of them came with me to get it printed. She was very happy with way it prints came out. She framed it herself and put it on display at our City Hall Art Gallery. The other lady is now very angry with me for making her look old.
She is 92 and does have some lines on her face. Now she is ending our friendship,
I did tell these women that I do not do much photo shop stuff except cropping. The 81 year old is OK with the photo.
What can I do ?
we know most people are NOT satisfied with the way they look in photos.
I take my Nikon camera and cell phone everywhere. ... (show quote)


Vanity at 92! No wonder I photograph Flowers, Seashells, Live Animals, Landscapes, Seascapes, Mountains, etc. They do not complain. In the same way, I not like my picture being taken often. I rarely agree to being the model!

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Dec 19, 2023 10:25:40   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
What some others have said...
Make her happy IF you truly value her friendship, as long as you don't let her negative attitude mess with your kindness.

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Dec 19, 2023 10:33:40   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Have her look into a mirror.


During my time running a portrait studio (mostly business portraits) I found many people have a certain deniability about their appearance. I always suggested subjects check themselves in the mirror to make sure their hair, clothing, etc. were good. Once I switched to digital and was able to review the photos with people during the shoot they would often notice flaws in their appearance which they never noticed looking in the mirror. Luckily with the digital era also came retouching, so I was able to get them back to what they perceived their appearance to be. But the retouching has to be natural and believable.

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Dec 19, 2023 10:41:34   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Bubbee wrote:
.... I, too, am 92 and have always been vain and taken good care of my skin, so I've been lucky in the wrinkle department ...


And you are beautiful Bubbee! Inside and out. Merry Christmas.

Jim

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Dec 19, 2023 10:42:22   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
One old time actress, Doris Day would never let a photographer snap her picture unless they had a soft focus filter because she had a billion freckles. You never saw the freckles.

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Dec 19, 2023 10:56:22   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
As "Manglesphoto" said... Lighting is your friend. Wrinkles are greatly diminished with good lighting and camera angles. There are some photos however, that you want to show someone's age. Black and white photos seem to bring out those age details too, unless filters and makeup are used accordingly.

This is a snapshot from my Aunt's 90th birthday. She was surprised by a gift and I wanted to capture her face the moment she opened it. Since it was not a setup shot you run with what you got. However the photo was softened slightly in post processing.

She passed away at 97 and was tough as nails to the end. "Aunt Wilda" RIP.


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Dec 19, 2023 12:03:17   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
Ellen101 wrote:
I take my Nikon camera and cell phone everywhere. I often run into what I think might be a good shot. I always ask permision to take someone's picture.
Here is what I am now dealing with: Recenty two older women ( ages 81 ans 92) asked me to take their photos for a project they were doing. I replied "Sure", They came to my home where i have some plain background set ups.
The shoot went well. They wanted themselves in a very close up pose cheek to cheek.
One of them came with me to get it printed. She was very happy with way it prints came out. She framed it herself and put it on display at our City Hall Art Gallery. The other lady is now very angry with me for making her look old.
She is 92 and does have some lines on her face. Now she is ending our friendship,
I did tell these women that I do not do much photo shop stuff except cropping. The 81 year old is OK with the photo.
What can I do ?
we know most people are NOT satisfied with the way they look in photos.
I take my Nikon camera and cell phone everywhere. ... (show quote)


When I had my studio, I made it a point to never photograph weddings, etc. for friends or family. Clients might sue you. I had insurance for that. Not prepared for loss of a friend. Being a curmudgeon, I don't have that many friends to spare. Especially not wanting to cast a pall over family gatherings if something should happen to a family member's special day.

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Dec 19, 2023 12:14:04   #
lorvey Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Have her look into a mirror.



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Dec 19, 2023 12:16:00   #
lorvey Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
luvmypets wrote:
I would suggest talking to the 92 year old and asking if she wants the same photo touched up a little. Next ask someone here on UHH if they will help and do some work to make the photo more acceptable to her. Ask her what features/wrinkles she would like worked on and how much. There may just be a couple of areas that could use a little help to not be so prominent.

There are some excellent people on this forum that do beautiful pp work and I'm sure someone would be willing to help. Unfortunately, I am not one of those people or I would volunteer.

Best of luck! I hope you can bring her happiness and not lose the friendship.

Dodie
I would suggest talking to the 92 year old and ask... (show quote)



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Dec 19, 2023 12:29:46   #
MJPerini
 
First, I would agree that when someone is 92 they deserve a little extra kindness, even if they are not displaying it themselves. But there are limits.
I might talk to the person who WAS happy with the picture, because you never know , she may have liked the picture because she looked better.
You did a nice thing , and got grief for doing so...... it happens. When you are 92, you don't have to be logical.
If it really troubles you you can offer to reshoot and use really soft , on axis light, but be aware she probably still won't be happy.

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